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Re: Furniture
« Reply #15 on: July 11, 2017, 06:56:35 AM »
Davu I did find soi 24 a couple of weeks ago and spent half a day going shop to shop. Most of the hand crafted furniture is built off site now. There are some true lumber yards there where you can get real wood like oak maple pine and what appears to be quality plywood.

The doors we are having made for our house are coming from a shop in Phrae. They do beautiful work using real Teakwood.
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« Reply #16 on: July 11, 2017, 07:29:06 AM »
Davu & DD. On the subject of wood you may be able to assist or advise. I've been trying to find some reasonable quality hardwood/ semi hardwood skirting board which has been a challenge. I'm after a minimum 5 inch, preferably 6 inch width, minimum 3m lengths half inch thick. Teak would be to expensive I think and possibly hard to get in the longer lengths. I want to laquer it so nice if it has some swirls/grain.
DD are you fitting skirting in your new house?



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« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2017, 08:18:10 AM »
Davu & DD. On the subject of wood you may be able to assist or advise. I've been trying to find some reasonable quality hardwood/ semi hardwood skirting board which has been a challenge. I'm after a minimum 5 inch, preferably 6 inch width, minimum 3m lengths half inch thick. Teak would be to expensive I think and possibly hard to get in the longer lengths. I want to laquer it so nice if it has some swirls/grain.
DD are you fitting skirting in your new house?
For myself have been applying tiles vertically around the rooms instead of skirting board. We had a plague of ticks a few years ago so I tend to avoid using wood as a permanent fixture in the house. Yhe last load of wood i bought at the Tao place in Lamplaimat was not too good and too expensive i thought. The good lady in the Nong Bua Kok garden centre told us to buy our wood in Thamen Chai, which must be a big saw yard by the sounds of it, the next time. Probably happening this week actually.

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« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2017, 08:21:46 AM »
Freddy,

Be very careful if you transport Teak wood, seems there are a lot of Thai restrictions on it.  While I have no links to the issue a friend of mine relayed to me how when he bought several Teak trees he had to coordinate with several police departments on transporting the wood.   Part of the reason Teak is expensive. 


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« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2017, 08:52:10 AM »
Regarding trees yes you need proof of the permit obtained to cut the wood with red stamp indicating taxes have been paid, so I understand. As far as lumber from a yard no permit required. Local lumber yards have no real hardwood. The stuff from Laos is light as a feather.

Regarding skirting yes there are all sorts of hardwood trim as well as Teak curtain dowel shops on soi 24.

I can email some photos of a couple shops and a google pin drop if you are planning a trip. Don't have the patience to try to do it on here.

If you find decent wood on your trip to the local lumber yard you were referred to Davu please share that info. I am also interested in reclaimed wood.

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« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2017, 01:15:26 PM »
For the teak furniture we just bought the shop we bought from had to complete a form and included on the form was our full address and Noi's full name. I asked about this and should I go and collect timber or more furniture in the future then the shop would complete this form for me and I would show to Polive if stopped. I have attached photo of the form/permit. Not sure if this is just a requirement for teak or if required for other woods.

DD. Can you elaborate on Soi 24 please. Where is it?
Also, are you able to share how much you've been quoted for internal teak doors. Place I bought our tables from are 8,000 per door which I thought quite reasonable for teak. Didn't include fitting, hard wear and laquer of course so each door will work out to around 10,000 I guess. I'm still considering whether to bite the bullet and change our doors or strip and re-finish our existing.

Davu. I have also considered and not yet discarded the idea of a tile skirting. Ticks and other wood eating bugs are a concern. I've already purchased the floor tile and may well go with a tile skirting if I can find something that will contrast nicely. If I can find teak at a reasonable price per meter it will probably be my first choice however may be out of budget. By the time I've done all the rooms, and architrave on doors it's a lot of wood.

Incidentally, may be of interest to others.
The shop we bought our tables from doesn't actually employ their carpenters/craftsmen directly. They contract them for each item depending on skill set. As and when I decide on doors, skirting, architrave etc and if teak a team of 2 can come from Chaing Mai, fit and finish everything. From my perspective I think worth considering. Once again, cost will be a factor but in the great scheme of things I think it probably wouldn't be to much.


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« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2017, 08:52:14 PM »
Regarding Teakwood doors I ordered with grade A lumber and heavy duty frames and sills. The shop is owned by a schoolmate of my wife's we may have gotten a sweet deal at under 8000 baht each. The double front door with glass surrounds is 55000 baht but it is larger size and again has grade A frame. They do sell Teakwood by the board so if you want to order and take delivery at same time as us you can save some shipping costs.

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« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2017, 09:00:58 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2017, 09:12:16 PM »
You can get teak oil with chandrite in it which works well. Thaiwatsado.

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« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2017, 10:21:35 PM »
DD,
Thank you for the info. Certainly does sound like you've got a great deal on those doors. Under 8,000 including frame and sills is damn good going for Grade A Teak.

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« Reply #25 on: July 12, 2017, 05:20:42 AM »
You can get teak oil with chandrite in it which works well. Thaiwatsado.

Teak oil is overrated and over priced, also it isn't somehow made from the teak tree. Professionals will use Tung oil or even linseed oil. Application isn't just a matter of splashing it on with a brush, it is or should be a two or three step job. AND. Real, good quality teak wood doesn't really need protection although there's nothing actually wrong with using a Chaindrite product I suppose.

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« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2017, 06:13:50 AM »
I'm still on a learning curve with the woodworking. I went to several stores looking to find out what percentage of actual teak oil was in each product. Most contain linseed oil and other ingredients. There is no oil made from the teak tree. It's just a marketing name. However it is a good protectant for most wood especially something kept outside.
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« Reply #27 on: July 12, 2017, 09:50:27 AM »
I'm still on a learning curve with the woodworking. I went to several stores looking to find out what percentage of actual teak oil was in each product. Most contain linseed oil and other ingredients. There is no oil made from the teak tree. It's just a marketing name. However it is a good protectant for most wood especially something kept outside.
nag, nag, nag.... If you Google it, you will find that quite a few profis advise against using 'teak oil' for out of doors furniture, but maybe 'Teak oil' made in Thailand is different. Teak turns grey with time but there is a product for cleaning. I wonder if the orangy stuff they use here can't be tinted...
All wood workers are on a learning curve, I only recently learned how to cut plywood without ripping the edge.

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« Reply #28 on: July 12, 2017, 09:58:39 AM »
The rails on my pergola are slotted in place so easy to pop out for treating or replacement if necessary. At some point I'm going to buy several products and just treat a few of the slats for comparison. See what has worked best after 6 months in the sun.

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« Reply #29 on: July 12, 2017, 10:19:15 AM »
On the subject of Teak Oil here is a link.  http://www.popularwoodworking.com/woodworking-blogs/teak-oil-what-is-it
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