Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA

[urleft]

mate please check out the PDF files i put earlier..one relates to Assault Rifles are legal in the USA if registered...its Swiss could be wrong...but i did try get some facts together. i still think its only semantics about whether a AR-15 is a assault rifle....its a killing not hunting weapon as far as i am concerned, and you agree that they are being stockpiled.
 

Promise I will get to them in the next few days. 

However, there are other legal uses for the AR-15 other than killing.  I would be willing to wager that US Public has fired over 1 million rounds (probably way higher) through AR-15s, and less than 100 rounds have been used for killing. 

Now if I were going into a close combat situation, I would want a high capacity shotgun loaded with 00 buckshot. 


 

 

[urleft]

mate please check out the PDF files i put earlier..one relates to Assault Rifles are legal in the USA if registered...its Swiss could be wrong...but i did try get some facts together. i still think its only semantics about whether a AR-15 is a assault rifle....its a killing not hunting weapon as far as i am concerned, and you agree that they are being stockpiled.
 

In some of my earlier posts I put that Automatic Weapons can be legally acquired, but it is such a pain in the ass that of all my gun buddies, none has one, even though we could all probably pass steps 1-3.   

What is required to legally obtain an Machine Gun:

http://www.class3weaponslicense.com/197/automatic-weapons-permit

Automatic Weapons Permit

Posted on January 4, 2012 by admin

I have had a couple of people contact me at class 3 weapons license looking for an “automatic weapons permit” and the answers can sometimes be confusing.  I have tried to explain to people that there is no such thing as an automatic weapons permit, just a tax stamp that you need to buy before purchasing the firearm.  That being said, it isn’t that easy.  We at class 3 weapons license have tried to put together a short list of the items that you will need to handle in order to complete the sale.

If you are interested in getting a Federal Firearms License or Class 3 Weapons License, then check out our main page.

1.The very first step you need to complete is getting the local Law Enforcement Officer (LEO) to sign off on a form 4.  Most LEO’s will know what this is immediately and you can usually gauge whether or not they will give you an automatic weapons permit.  It seems that smaller, rural sheriffs are more inclined to sign off than big city cops, but you can try multiple locations if needed.  You can get around this step by creating a NFA trust as seen here.

2.Make sure your record is clean.  If you are a convicted felon, owe child support or have any kind of firearm violations, you will not receive an automatic weapons permit.  Don’t even think about trying to fudge on this one, and don’t try to get someone else to purchase the tax stamp for you as this will mean jail time for both of ya.

3.Be prepared to have the local LEO perform a background check on anyone applying.  This can range from mild to extremely stringent.  Today, most LEO’s don’t want to put a stamp of approval on someone that may cause problems down the road.  Make sure you are open and honest with any investigations.

4.Get your money together, because you are going to need it.  With the NFA act, you can not purchase new automatic weapons and this severely limits the supply of them.  You will probably need 5000 dollars to purchase a bottom of the line automatic weapon and the cost can go dramatically higher.  You will also need to spend 200 dollars on your tax stamp.

5.Find a class 3 weapons dealer that will sell you what you want and complete the purchase.  You will need the specifics from the weapon to fill in the forms.  After gathering all the information, complete the form 4 and submit it to the BATFE along with 2 fingerprint cards and pictures.  The BATF will let you know when your automatic weapons permit has been accepted or denied and then you can complete the purchase with your class iii dealer.

As a reminder, you need to educate yourself on the laws regarding your automatic weapons permit.  For example, who can shoot it, crossing state lines, selling, lending or willing your firearm.  These are all things you need to research before beginning the process and obtaining your automatic weapons permit.

Automatic weapons can be great fun and bring your shooting to a whole new level, but obtaining one of these is not for the faint of heart.  You will need a clean record, a lot of money and some help with all the paperwork.  Instead of an automatic weapons permit, you may have better luck with a federal firearms license or class iii weapons license.

[pablo]

Now if I were going into a close combat situation, I would want a high capacity shotgun loaded with 00 buckshot. 

Got me my Benelli M2 Tactical, with pistol grip and ghost-ring night sights, sittin' in the corner of my bedroom.

Only 6 shots between reloads...but with 00 buck, that should be plenty.

http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/benelli-m2-tactical.php

[urleft]

Now if I were going into a close combat situation, I would want a high capacity shotgun loaded with 00 buckshot. 

Got me my Benelli M2 Tactical, with pistol grip and ghost-ring night sights, sittin' in the corner of my bedroom.

Only 6 shots between reloads...but with 00 buck, that should be plenty.

http://www.benelliusa.com/shotguns/benelli-m2-tactical.php

Nice to have a man understand what is being said. 

[RonTexas]

Rodger That!

[nookiebear]

Would you have thrown a pie at the gunman?

A pie killed Ernie 

Who drove the fastest Milkcart in the West!!

[sao baht]

Who drove the fastest Milkcart in the West!!

Two Ton Ted from Teddington throw the pie !!! 

[Paddyram]

This guy gives gun owners a bad name.



Do some Americans really think they need guns to defend themselves from attack from their own government ?  They do know they can vote them out right ?
And if the 'Government' did attack it's citizens, how would their AR-15's, etc. stand up to attack helicopters, tanks and cruise missles.

If you have to arm yourself against your own government, there is something seriously wrong with either you or your country.
unbelievable

[Paddyram]

And before anyone calls me a gun-hating tree hugger, this is may latest rifle below.

Although I must admin, i enjoy a good hug.

[mike]

This guy gives gun owners a bad name.



Do some Americans really think they need guns to defend themselves from attack from their own government ?  They do know they can vote them out right ?
And if the 'Government' did attack it's citizens, how would their AR-15's, etc. stand up to attack helicopters, tanks and cruise missles.

If you have to arm yourself against your own government, there is something seriously wrong with either you or your country.
unbelievable

I really don't know how Piers kept his calm in that interview. Unbelieveable is all I can say.

[nookiebear]

Oh No not more.........2 women are shot dead in a Sheriff's office in Florida!!!!!

[BillH52]

This guy gives gun owners a bad name.



Do some Americans really think they need guns to defend themselves from attack from their own government ?  They do know they can vote them out right ?
And if the 'Government' did attack it's citizens, how would their AR-15's, etc. stand up to attack helicopters, tanks and cruise missles.

If you have to arm yourself against your own government, there is something seriously wrong with either you or your country.
unbelievable

I really don't know how Piers kept his calm in that interview. Unbelieveable is all I can say.

I was impressed with Piers; and he was able to get a bit in edgewise that would make even a hardcore think twice, maybe.

[urleft]

Fox Affiliate Thoroughly Debunks Piers Morgan’s Gun Homicide Statistics

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/01/10/fox-affiliate-thoroughly-debunks-piers-morgan-s-gun-homicide-statisti

Swann said, “The stat that Piers Morgan was continuing to cite, one that Great Britain which banned guns about fifteen years ago had only 35 gun-related murders in 2011 compared to the United States which had 11,000. Let’s start there because that number is not correct.”

Swann then broke down the FBI crime statistics for 2011 showing that there were 12,664 homicides in the U.S. Of those, 8,583 were caused by firearms.

“But of those,” said Swann, “400 are listed as justifiable homicide by law enforcement, 260 justifiable homicide by private citizens.” ....


But that’s just the beginning, because what anti-gun media members such as Morgan completely ignore is the differing crime rates relative to the population.

“The U.S. has the highest gun ownership rate in the world, an average of 88 guns per 100 people,” Swann stated. “That puts it first in the world for gun ownership.”

If there was a significant correlation between gun ownership and homicide, America should therefore be one of the highest nations in the world in terms of gun-related murders per fixed number of people.

Not so said Swann. “Honduras, El Salvador, and Jamaica have higher rates. So do 24 other countries. The U.S., despite being number one in gun ownership is number 28 in gun homicide with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people.”

But here’s where it really gets interesting.

“The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU,” Swann said. “The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate, the fourth highest burglary rate. But more importantly, the EU named Britain as the most violent country in the EU.”

Swann noted that in the UK, there are 2,034 violent crimes per 100,000 people. By contrast, there are 466 violent crimes per 100,000 here in America.

“We’re not even in the top ten,” Swann said.

This means that Britain’s violent crime rate is over five times that of the U.S.

Not surprisingly, Morgan chooses to ignore this statistic.



Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2013/01/10/fox-affiliate-thoroughly-debunks-piers-morgan-s-gun-homicide-statisti#ixzz2HgTTXgZB

[toffo]

 Big difference in violent crimes to getting killed by a gun...at least your alive not dead like if you lived in the U.S

[Prakhonchai Nick]

Might I suggest that many violent crimes in the USA go unreported, and are dealt with personally by the people concerned. Hence the high homicide rate.

In the UK, the police are invariably involved.