Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA

[nookiebear]

Now 2 firefighters shot to death............Yet we will still have the usual suspects who will still support the right to be armed..........Sad,RIP............

[Jamaw]

So sad; women, children and now those who risk their lives to save people. A sick country that knows what the cure is and refuses medicine.

http://news.sky.com/story/1029743/us-bullet-demand-hits-unprecedented-levels

[binnsy]

  They go around the world shooting people so if they decide to shoot there own in there country whats the difference.

They think they are the worlds police force.

Feel sad for those who are victams but the septics think its there right.Maybe when some of these pro gun brigade lose a family member they will alter there views.

[Jamaw]

It's not just guns it's safety in general. The USA has the worst road safety record of the developed world and in terms of health & safety I've seen so many accidents due to putting money first. Don't start me on friendly fire either. Yes, they will tell the world what to do but when challenged they can't handle critisism. I'm not a fan of Piers Morgan but I support everything he said on TV to tge NRA chairman.

[urleft]

Yup, another crazy:

Spengler was found with multiple guns, which were not legal for him to possess because of a manslaughter conviction from 1981.  He spent 17 years in prison for the death his grandmother. He killed her with a hammer.
 
So we have a criminal illegally possessing guns.  How do we stop criminals from possessing guns?
 
What country has found a way to keep guns out of the hands of criminals? 
 
 
 


 

[nookiebear]

Any comments from my No1 fan,P F BROWN??

[Jamaw]

Urleft- if you go down that avenue then I will bury you. Anyone can buy a weapon in the USA. Criminal checks are one thing but there's plenty of evidence of people with mental, drug and alcohol problems legally buying weapons.

Try to see this for what it is and not an anti-American stance. It is one thing having such a shameful record, it's another seeking to try to defend it.

[urleft]

Bury away. 

I am not defending this scumbag's actions.  But the typical reaction from this is to try to take the guns from law abiding citizens. 

And guns are being confiscated from Law abiding citizens as we banter here:

A recent call came into to Steve Quail, A Radio Host, about another Veteran, in Ohio, who was raided by the police, and had all his guns confiscated.  As the story reveals, this man has never had a criminal record, being a Christian, and coming from a Christian home where his father is a Pastor.  The Miami County Ohio Sheriff’s Department came in on August 22nd, approximately 5:30 p.m., and produced a warrant for the seizure of the property.  There were 7 Sheriff’s at this man’s home, and “The deputies confiscated one .45 caliber pistol, one .380 caliber pistol, a 12 gauge shotgun, two AR-15 rifles, and a stripped AR-15 lower receiver” (Quail, 2012)

The reasoning that was behind this charade was given by this explanation,  “…Defendant shall not possess, use, carry, or obtain any deadly weapon and shall turn over all deadly weapons in defendant’s possession to the law enforcement agency that serves this order. Any law enforcement agency is authorized to take possession of deadly weapons pursuant to this paragraph and hold them in protective custody until further court order…” (Quail, 2012).  Since there weren’t any violations by this unnamed man, or by his guns of this unnamed man, then how can this reasoning be used, and why is he called a defendant if no crimes have been committed?

http://www.copblock.org/20066/veteran-raided-disarmed-ordered-to-take-mental-evaluation/

[Jamaw]

Being a Christian is irrelevant, I don't understand why that was brought up. Quite simply, there is no need for so many weapons and such powerful weapons. People with no criminal record have boasted to have as many as 16 types of guns in their homes. Why?

It's basically down to attitude and we, in Europe have a different perspective. I just irritates me when Americans try to relate the need or justification for weapon with freedom, a hideous excuse.

[toffo]

As an x soldier I've seen the damage a high powered rifle does and don't understand why you would be allowed them in your home... A simple 9mm would deter anybody from breaking into your house.. They definitely need to ban the purchase of high velocity rifles in the home..

[urleft]

Just who are you to say what I don't need?   

It irritates me that people like you put arbritary limits on things you don't agree with. 

Why do people need more that vehicle per driver?  More than 3 bottles of beer per drinker?  More than 1 butcher knife per food preparer?   

And yes it is the same, more people are killed from vehicles and alcohol than guns. 

And why does a someone need a lmborghini?


And is being Christain irrelevant?  There is a massive effort to destroy Christians, as another thead says, Have a Merry Christmas, not happy holidays.  Being a Jew should have been irrelevant in the Germany in 30's/40's, are Christains now the Jews replacement?


It starts with taking rights away a step at time out of reasonableness.  Like business owners cannot even decide if they want to let people smoke in their business, the GVT has made it illegal (and I am a non-smoker). 

So you have no right to limit me from my God given rights because you think I have no need. 

[Jamaw]

Very strange response, relating weapons to collecting other items.

Religion has nothing to do with the subject and being religious Isnt a credible reference. As for your reference to Germany, Adolf Hitler a Catholic and the present Pope was am member of Hitler youth.

And yes, the only thing more dangerous than an American with a weapon is an America with a vehicle - FACT.

To quote Peirs Morgan - you do not have a credible defence to this argument. Just keep posting the same deflecting crap.

[Prakhonchai Nick]

Any comments from my No1 fan,P F BROWN??

From his earlier comment, he's thrown the towel in!

[Jamaw]

He must be good, he's a Christian...

[sao baht]