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Offline Nobby

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #195 on: December 31, 2012, 09:15:56 AM »
So the Aussies banned guns, and so far have successfully avoided a mass killing incident, but find increases in violent crimes, sometimes more that 40%.    And you call that successful?
 
 
 
 
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

April 13, 2009

It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer.  In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime.  In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

•In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
•Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
•Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

•Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
•During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
•Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
•Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
•At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
•Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.
While this doesn't prove that more guns would impact crime rates, it does prove that gun control is a flawed policy.  Furthermore, this highlights the most important point: gun banners promote failed policy regardless of the consequences to the people who must live with them, says the Examiner.

Source: Howard Nemerov, "Australia experiencing more violent crime despite gun ban," D.C. Examiner, April 8, 2009.

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http://www.examiner.com/x-2879-Austin-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m4d8-Australia-experiencing-more-violent-crime-despite-gun-ban

True and without all this we would never be able to then watch 'Underbelly'

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #196 on: December 31, 2012, 09:25:46 AM »
Self explanatory indeed, but said over 200 years ago just as the 2nd amendment was promulgated more than 200 years ago.

Times change, people change, and at the very least 200 year old laws should be reconsidered and modified if thought necessary for todays needs,
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/quote]           I do think human nature changes that much at all. There will always be individuals and governments ready to abuse the defenseless. Hence there will always be a need for free people to defend themselves. That is if you wish to remain free.

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #197 on: December 31, 2012, 02:03:44 PM »
« Last Edit: December 31, 2012, 02:11:08 PM by gotlost »

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #198 on: December 31, 2012, 04:02:27 PM »
^^^^  L.A. Gun buyout and the shock and horror of these "launchers".....what a joke!  555

Some non-reusable used up hollow tubes that someone nicked from the trash bin, before leaving the service.  Totally worthless!

Might as well have put up a worn out pair of combat boots for the media to super-hype and sensationalize....about the same level of DANGER.  5555

I mean, do you think if someone really had an actual, serviceable RPG laucher, they'd be showing up at a police weapons buyback?  555
« Last Edit: December 31, 2012, 04:04:33 PM by pablo »

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #199 on: December 31, 2012, 08:49:15 PM »
Self explanatory indeed, but said over 200 years ago just as the 2nd amendment was promulgated more than 200 years ago.

Times change, people change, and at the very least 200 year old laws should be reconsidered and modified if thought necessary for todays needs,



The founding fathers wisely chose to call it the Bill of Rights, no the Bill of NEEDS.

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #200 on: December 31, 2012, 09:14:15 PM »
Unfortunately in recent times the wrong people seem to have taken it as their right to arm themselves.

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #201 on: December 31, 2012, 10:50:16 PM »
Unfortunately in recent times the wrong people seem to have taken it as their right to arm themselves.

And other wrong people disarm law abiding citizens making them victims. 


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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #202 on: January 01, 2013, 05:59:12 AM »
Enough I think of stupidity, happy new year every one

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #203 on: January 01, 2013, 08:47:18 AM »
Happy New Year to ALL

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #204 on: January 01, 2013, 09:02:09 AM »
Happy New Year to ALL

Well said, Nooks! and the same to you and all members

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #205 on: January 01, 2013, 09:13:48 AM »
Happy New Year to ALL

Well said, Nooks! and the same to you and all members

I'll drink to that too.

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #206 on: January 01, 2013, 09:14:45 AM »
Enough I think of stupidity, happy new year every one


Unfortunarely the stupidity continues...

Just reading about the 74 year old landlord who shot dead his two tenants over rent and snow clearing disputes.

Some might see this action as an extreme method of concluding a minor row - but, hey no, we musn't  infringe the gunrights of individuals like this - that would just not do.

It is every Americans right to possess a firearm. Never mind that occasionally some old fcuker like this decides to become judge jury and executioner.

It is a small price to pay for freedom!

You reap what you sow.

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #207 on: January 01, 2013, 09:49:13 AM »
That will be music to Urleft's ears!!

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #208 on: January 01, 2013, 09:50:44 AM »
Where is he today?.......Perhaps taking photo's in Makro's!!

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #209 on: January 01, 2013, 09:59:20 AM »
Stupidity is doing it the UK way:


In 2009 a former soldier, Paul Clarke, found a bag in his garden containing a shotgun. He brought it to the police station and was immediately handcuffed and charged with possession of the gun. At his trial the judge noted: "In law there is no dispute that Mr. Clarke has no defence to this charge. The intention of anybody possessing a firearm is irrelevant." Mr. Clarke was sentenced to five years in prison.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323777204578195470446855466.html

 

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