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Re: Abu Hamza to be extradited to US
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2012, 10:21:45 AM »
Agreed.

I was brought up in Glasgow where I experienced varied sectarianism. I've worked and lived in 10 Arabic countries for 11 years. I've been to Jerusalem and seen what religion does to normal people.

I totally respect the right of anyone in any religion but it seems each and one don't respect each other or indeed the right to be an Athiest.

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Re: Abu Hamza to be extradited to US
« Reply #31 on: October 08, 2012, 10:33:37 AM »
Agreed.

I was brought up in Glasgow where I experienced varied sectarianism. I've worked and lived in 10 Arabic countries for 11 years. I've been to Jerusalem and seen what religion does to normal people.

I totally respect the right of anyone in any religion but it seems each and one don't respect each other or indeed the right to be an Athiest.
I agree implicitly with your statement concerning the fundamentals of religion.
However i find the attachment somewhat disturbing,but i am sure in was intended in a lighthearted manner. thumbup

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Re: Abu Hamza to be extradited to US
« Reply #32 on: October 08, 2012, 12:04:01 PM »
Worth a thought...

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Re: Abu Hamza to be extradited to US
« Reply #33 on: October 09, 2012, 07:59:36 PM »
GO,  MICHIGAN    STATE  !
Very interesting -- the University is standing by their professor and not bowing down to special interest groups!
 


http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/wichman.asp
Professor Wichman E-mail
Claim:   A    Michigan   professor sent an e-mail telling Muslim students to leave the country. 
Status:   True.
The story begins at  Michigan    State   University  with a mechanical engineering professor named Indred Wichman.
 
Wichman sent an e-mail to the Muslim Student's Association.
The e-mail was in response to the students' protest of the Danish cartoons that portrayed the Prophet Muhammad as a terrorist.
The group had complained the cartoons were 'hate speech.'
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Enter Professor Wichman.
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In his e-mail, he said the following:
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Dear Muslim Association,
As a professor of Mechanical Engineering here at MSU I intend to protest your protest.
I am offended not by cartoons, but by more mundane things like beheadings of civilians, cowardly attacks on public buildings, suicide murders, murders of Catholic priests (the latest in Turkey), burnings of Christian churches, the continued persecution of Coptic Christians in Egypt, the imposition of Sharia law on non-Muslims, the rapes of Scandinavian girls and women (called 'whores' in your culture), the murder of film directors in Holland, and the rioting and looting in Paris France.
This is what offends me, a soft-spoken person and academic, and many, many of my colleagues. I counsel you dissatisfied, aggressive, brutal, and uncivilized slave-trading Muslims to be very aware of this as you proceed with your infantile 'protests.'
If you do not like the values of the West - see the First Amendment - you are free to leave. I hope for God's sake that most of you choose that option.
Please return to your ancestral homelands and build them up yourselves instead of troubling Americans.
Cordially,
I. S. Wichman
Professor of Mechanical Engineering
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As you can imagine,
The Muslim group at the university didn't like this too well.
They're demanding that Wichman be reprimanded, that the university impose mandatory diversity training for faculty,   
And mandate a seminar on hate and discrimination for all freshmen.
Now, the local chapter of CAIR has jumped into the fray.
CAIR, the Council on American-Islamic Relations, apparently doesn't believe that the good professor
Had the right to express his opinion.
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For its part, the university is standing its ground in support of Professor Wichman,
Saying the e-mail was private, and they don't intend to publicly condemn his remarks.
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Send this to your friends, and ask them to do the same.
Tell them to keep passing it around until the whole country gets it.
We are in a war.
This political correctness crap is getting old and killing us.
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Re: Abu Hamza to be extradited to US
« Reply #34 on: October 09, 2012, 08:33:06 PM »

 


http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/wichman.asp
No wont be sending it to anyone.
So tired of listening to western ideologies.
Try reading this you might learn something about Islam.


www.dar-us-salam.com/TheNobleQuran/index.html

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Re: Abu Hamza to be extradited to US
« Reply #35 on: October 09, 2012, 08:34:18 PM »
The Koran is a made up ficticious book of evil.

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Re: Abu Hamza to be extradited to US
« Reply #37 on: October 09, 2012, 08:46:59 PM »
The Koran is a made up ficticious book of evil.
Absolute rubbish.
Have you read it ?
If you haven't then your statement is unjustified and irrelevant.
If you have then you need to read it again.

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Re: Abu Hamza to be extradited to US
« Reply #38 on: October 09, 2012, 08:48:42 PM »
Should this post digress and we end up discussing religion, there can only be one winner and that is one who deals in facts; facts, realsm and science are the traditional enemies of religion, some more than others.

Best leave it at that.

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Re: Abu Hamza to be extradited to US
« Reply #39 on: October 09, 2012, 08:52:26 PM »

We should be offended when certain governments illegally invade and destroy of countries for greed.
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Re: Abu Hamza to be extradited to US
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2012, 08:57:06 PM »
Should this post digress and we end up discussing religion, there can only be one winner and that is one who deals in facts; facts, realsm and science are the traditional enemies of religion, some more than others.

Best leave it at that.
So you haven't read it but you know it's evil,why because someone told you so.
As you say FACTS not fabrication absolutely unbelievable.

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Re: Abu Hamza to be extradited to US
« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2012, 08:57:50 PM »
Tony, I totally 100% agree with you on that but it has nothing to do with religion. The biggest killer of Muslims is other Muslims. During my tenure in Arabic countries I experienced hatred with venom, not against the West but Shia and Sunni, as one who was brought up in Glasgow i can tell you this makes the Protestant V  Catholic thing puppy food.

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Re: Abu Hamza to be extradited to US
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2012, 08:59:45 PM »
Hi IT

No I won't be reading the Koran same as I do not read the bible (even tho I have copies of both).

I do not need a book to tell me the difference between right and wrong and how to be a good person.

What I object to is people manipulating religion to justify all manner of perverted extreme beliefs. I wonder what Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha et al would think if they could see how their original intentions have been distorted.

I suspect they would be mortified.


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Re: Abu Hamza to be extradited to US
« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2012, 09:01:17 PM »
Tony I have read the Koran and the bible, both made up if fictitious hearsay and unbelievable stories. Mohammed flew from Saudi to Jerusalem and back in a few hours, yes flew! I could go in and I can easily bury you but I don't want to do that as I know you're not that well informed.

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Re: Abu Hamza to be extradited to US
« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2012, 09:03:16 PM »
RWGB those are good comments and yes I believe good men would be shocked at the murder, rape and indoctrination done in their names.

 

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