What would you Do ?

[rufusredtail]

Also how many times do you see in the village many young kids on motorbikes, they learn at an early age , who really teaches them , i have come across 2 accidents already , with broken limbs . EDUACATION , is where it starts and for sure what someone said , teaching in schools .

[Prakhonchai Nick]

Also how many times do you see in the village many young kids on motorbikes, they learn at an early age , who really teaches them , i have come across 2 accidents already , with broken limbs . EDUACATION , is where it starts and for sure what someone said , teaching in schools .

The kids are not taught how to drive. The parents/guardians are irresponsible for allowing the kids to drive bikes. The schools act irresponsibly by allowing underage kids to enter schools on motorbikes -often with 2 or even 3 pasengers - no helmets of course. And the police are also irresponsible, as they stop oncoming traffic to wave the youngsters safely into school premises instead of arresting them.

We have had 2 underage kids killed in our village on motorbikes. Their friends come to the wake on their motorbikes, with no helmets  and again often with more than one passenger. Even death fails to shake them up!

 

[rufusredtail]

one other thing i would change is the price of Whisky , why is it in my country its $69 bucks , and in Thailand Its 900 thb , why is it so cheap ,i would triple the price , there cannot be a lot of tax on it , i was actually in a shop , and had to buy some , but was told cannot purchase , until after 3 pm , well thast a good move , is it illegal to drive under the influence of liquor , here you are allowed .05 on a breath machine , what is it in Thailand.

[Jamaw]

That's a very good point! I have a 12 year old step-son, he's about 5feet 5 inches now so tall for a young Thai (or a Thai). He's asking for a motaci!!! I have refused. I bought him a mountain bike and that's what I use when I go into town. He's throw it down sometimes after school instead of standing it up. The chain sticks despite me showing him how to maintain and oil it!

However, as Admin has correctly pointed out, we can't change them but we can influence them! My wife is good at this as she has worked abroad in top Hotels so she does the psychology! She said what will happen when Pa is away, what will you do? That made him think. I have said to him to show me you can be responsible and I will buy you a Motorbike next year. If you don't obey road  rules I will take it away. It is Peer pressure from mates but I tell him that you are above them and he knows quite a few have had minor crashes.

Incentives work! I said to him don't worry about what your mates do, they are 12 & 13 and have motorbikes, they will still have them when you are 18! When you are 18 and show you are responsible I'll buy you a car and the girls will like that when your mates are still riding their bikes!

It matters not what we think and many on here share the same views in terms of safety. There is no safety culture here and the police do not enforce it!

[Jamaw]

The reasoning behind Whisky (Scotch) but Whiskey (Thai and others) is the alcohol problems so I accept that. I'm a great red wine lover and Thai's don't drink that so why is that so expensive?

[rufusredtail]

I love red wine but have given trying to find a nice drop , last time on a roadside i quizzed the bloke about the wine , nice dark green bottle , beautiful label , corked , butttttttttttttttttttt the taste , i cannot describe , bloody awful, i gave the other 2 bottles away , any suggestions , here our reds are very good , may be called sour in Thailand , but very nice to drink , be interested to know what you drink and where you buy , and its not crap.

[Jamaw]

Agreed, it's difficult getting a good wine here, I love Oz wine.

As for alcohol rates Thailand is the same as Oz 0.05

 
 
Country
BAC limit (%)
Source
1
Albania
0.01
9
2
Angola
?
Unknown
3
Argentina
0.05
9
4
Armenia
0.00
8
5
Australia
0.05
4, 5, 6, 8
6
Austria
0.05
1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 42, 50
7
Azerbaijan
0.00
9, 43
8
Bahrain
0.00 
Moslem law
9
Belarus
0.04
1, 43
10
Belgium
0.05
1, 2, 3, 5, 9, 42. 50
11
Belize
0.08
12
12
Bosnia Herzegovina
0.05
9
13
Brazil
0.08
5
14
Bulgaria
0.05
1, 2,  9, 20, 43
15
Cambodia
?
Unknown
16
Canada
0.08
3, 5, 9
17
Chile
0.08 
15
18
China
0.03 
16
19
Costa Rica
0.05 (0.49)
37
20
Croatia  (see note 51)
0.05
1, 2, 8, 42, 43
21   Cyprus   
0.09 changing to 0.05
50 / 52
22
Czech Republic
0.00
1, 2, 9, 43, 46, 50
23
Denmark
0.05
1, 2, 5, 8, 42,43, 50
24
Ecuador
0.08
38, 45
25
Estonia
0.00 / "0,2 per milles"
8, 20, 46 / 47, 50
26
Fiji
0.08
17
27
Finland
0.05
1-5,8,31,42, 43, 50
28
France
0.05
1, 2,3,4,5,9,42, 50
29
Georgia
0.03
9, 20
30
Germany
0.05
1, 2, 5, 42, 43, 50
31
Ghana
0.08
18
32
Greece
0.05
3, 4, 5, 8, 42, 50
33
Hungary
0.00
1, 2, 8, 43, 46, 50
34
Iceland
0.05
1, 2, 3, 4, 8, 42
35
India
0.03 / 0.015
11 / 34
36
Ireland
0.08
3, 4, 5, 8, 50
37
Israel
0.05
2, 4, 8
38
Italy
0.05
9, 42, 43, 50
39
Jamaica
0.08
30
40
Japan
0.03
33
41
Jordan
0.00
35
42
Kyrgyzstan
0.00
8, 17
43
Latvia
0.05
1, 2, 8, 43, 50
44
Lebanon
?
Unknown
45
Lithuania
0.04 / 0.00
1, 2, 9, 17, 43, 50 / 46
46
Luxembourg
0.08
1, 2,3,4,5,8,43,50
47
Macedonia
0.05
21
48
Malaysia
0.08
17
49
Mali
0.00
Moslem law 36
50
Malta
0.08
9, 50
51
Mauritius
0.08
17
52
Moldova, Republic of
0.03
9, 17, 27
53
Monaco
0.05
2
54
Namibia
0.05
14
55
Netherlands
0.05
1, 2,3,4,5,8,43,50
56
New Zealand
0.08
3, 5, 8, 39
57
Norway
0.02
1, 2, 27, 42, 43
58
Pakistan
0.00
Moslem law
59
Peru
0.05 / 0.06
8 / 17
60
Poland
0.02
1, 2, 3, 42, 50
61
Portugal
0.05 / 0.02
2, 4, 8, 42, 50 / 43
62
Romania
0.00
1, 2, 8, 43, 46
63
Russia
0.05 / 0.00
22 (q.v.) / 43
64   Puerto Rico      0.08   44
65
Saudi Arabia
0.00
Moslem law
66   Serbia (and Montenegro)    
0.05
42, 43
67
Singapore
0.08
8, 23
68
Slovak Republic / Slovakia
0.00
1, 2, 8, 43, 46, 50
69
Slovenia
0.05
1, 5, 8, 43, 50
70
South Africa
0.05
7, 9, 14, 32, 48
71
South Korea
0.05 / 0.053
8 / 49
72
Spain
0.05
1, 2, 5, 43, 50
73
Sudan
0.02 
unconfirmed
74
Swaziland
0.10 / 0.15
24 / 13
75
Sweden
0.02
1,2,3,4,5,8,42,43, 50
76
Switzerland
0.05 from  Jan 1, 2004
29, 42
77
Taiwan
0.05
25 (& see 40)
78
Tanzania
0.08
10
79
Thailand
0.05
26, 27
80
Turkey
0.05
1, 2, 8, 27, 43
81
Turkmenistan
0.03
9, 27
82   Uganda   
0.08
41
83
United Arab Emirates (UAE)
0.00
Moslem law
84
United Kingdom
0.08
1, 2, 3, 4, 9, 43, 50
85
USA
0.08  (now all 50 states)
2, 3, 5, 8
86
Uzbekistan
0.00
unconfirmed
87
Yugoslavia
0.05
1, 2
88
Zimbabwe
0.08
10

[rufusredtail]

I not understand , say pakistan  000 then it mentions muslim law with a figure can you explain please ?

[Jamaw]

It basically means zero tollerance! I lived and worked in many Arabic countries and basically if the police smell alcohol on you then you are inside prison straight away and charged next day. No complicated devices, just a policeman with a sensitive nose!

[Jamaw]

 
Groupings
 
(n.b. *where two different levels are given, above, for one country, the higher reading has been used below)   
 
BAC
Countries
Religion
The five listed countries currently believed to have a zero blood-alcohol limit primarily or specifically for reasons of religion are: Bahrain, Mali, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, & UAE -- these are NOT included in any DSA totals or calculations showing what proportion of countries fall into certain BAC bands
Zero
Armenia, Azerbaijan, Czech Republic, Hungary, Jordan, Kyrgyzstan, Romania, Slovak Republic, (Uzbekistan)   (10 countries)
0.01%
Albania
0.02%
Estonia*, Norway, Poland, (Sudan), Sweden   (5)
0.03%
China, Georgia*, India, Japan, Moldova, Turkmenistan   (6)
0.04%
Belarus, Lithuania*    (2)
 
0.05%
 
Argentina, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Bosnia Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Costa Rica, Croatia, Cyprus, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Iceland, Israel, Italy, Latvia, Macedonia, Monaco, Namibia, Netherlands, Portugal*, Russia*, Serbia, Slovenia, South Africa, South Korea, Spain, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, Turkey, Yugoslavia     (35)
0.06%
Peru*
0.08%
Belize, Brazil, Canada, Chile, Ecuador, Fiji, Ghana, Ireland, Jamaica, Luxembourg, Malaysia, Malta, Mauritius, New Zealand, Puerto Rico, Singapore, Tanzania, Uganda, United Kingdom, USA, Zimbabwe   (21)
0.10%
Possibly Swaziland, but see 0.15%, below.  [Many American states had this limit but Delaware was the last to sign up for a 0.08% limit, in July 2004.]
0.15%
Swaziland*   (1)                        (82 applicable countries, excluding religion-mandated zeros)
 
Note: At least 72% (i.e. 60) of the 83 applicable countries have a BAC limit =/< 0.05% (excluding religiously-mandated zero limits)

[Prakhonchai Nick]

That's a very good point! I have a 12 year old step-son, he's about 5feet 5 inches now so tall for a young Thai (or a Thai). He's asking for a motaci!!! I have refused.

 I have said to him to show me you can be responsible and I will buy you a Motorbike next year. If you don't obey road  rules I will take it away.

You propose to buy your then 13 year old stepson a motorcycle next year. As you seem to be aware of most things relating to driving, surely you know that in Thailand one has to be 16 years old to legally drive a motorbike.  Whilst I appreciate the roads are full of 11, 12, and 13 year olds racing around on their motorcy's, both they and those who permit them to drive are in my book irresponsible.

The legal age was enacted for a good reason -as it is in most countries. Below that age, so many kids are totally immature and cannot conceive of the need to realise there are other motorists using the roads besides themselves.

I would urge you to reconsider your promise.

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