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BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« on: July 22, 2010, 12:58:36 AM »
Hi Bums

There is still a lot of pontificating going on on another Thai forum over the Baht 150 charge for ATM withdrawals with overseas cards.  character4 newargue

Well it would appear that withdrawals are still free from AEON ATM's due to the fact that this is a Japanese bank. Although they are none to numerous according to their website there is one in Buriram big C

http://www.aeonthailand.com/lang/en/menu/Service_Location/region/North%20East#soutput

Anyone care to check it out and confirm no fee! clap


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PS:- My fee for providing this info 20baht per withdrawal ~~~ please leave behind bar a Paddy's confused4

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Re: BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2010, 07:08:35 AM »
David
I have been using the one attached to BigC, Surin for months and confirm there is no 150b fee. A number of other surin farangs now use it too.

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Re: BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2010, 08:19:59 AM »
Good to know if you are in Buriram or Surin...........I guess there is one in the Korat Big C too
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Re: BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2010, 02:54:38 AM »
Hi Bums


Bad news for Nationwide Flex account holders confused4

Be prepared to be shafted again from November 1st     >:(


See .....   http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/jul/31/nationwide-flexaccount-charge-withdrawals


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Re: BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2010, 07:57:09 AM »
Hi Bums


Bad news for Nationwide Flex account holders confused4

Be prepared to be shafted again from November 1st     >:(


See .....   http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/jul/31/nationwide-flexaccount-charge-withdrawals


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It had to happen sometime!!Did you notice that the 'free' travel insurance only applies to Europe!!

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Re: BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2010, 04:25:42 PM »
Hi Bums

Anyone out there used this service?   ~~~   http://www.hifx.co.uk/


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Re: BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2010, 05:06:49 PM »
Bend over and prepare to be shafted yet again confused4

Consumers face higher overseas card charges

By Nigel Cassidy Business reporter

Nationwide card The hugely popular Nationwide debit card will soon come with charges


In a couple of months' time, the Nationwide building society is to withdraw its popular commission-free service, and charge a fee when its debit card is used abroad.

Most other current account debit cards now rack up charges each time we buy something or withdraw currency - up to £4 for every £100 spent.

And that is on top of the exchange costs and any additional fees.

The terms of the Nationwide Flexaccount are now being changed to reward loyal customers at the expense of those who have just opened an account to get the overseas benefits.


There will be some free travel insurance, but commission-free withdrawals abroad are to go.

The result is that many say they will ditch their Nationwide Flexaccounts, even though the building society insists that after the changes its fees will still be lower than those of most competitors.

"Many competitors charge a higher level of 2.75%," says the Nationwide.

"Our charge of 2% is the lowest charge in the market on a mass-market current account.

"That means when a customer spends £1,000 abroad, they will be charged at least £15 less than those with other providers," it adds.

For years the Nationwide debit card has been the card holidaymakers have been advised to use. Many people got a card purely for this purpose.

Currently anyone using the building society's debit card in Europe does not have to pay a charge, though they do pay a fee of 1% outside the eurozone.

From 1 November, Nationwide will levy a 2% charge on transactions.

That is a foreign exchange fee that you will pay whenever you use your card, whether you are buying something or taking money out of cash machine.

It will also also levy a £1 cash-withdrawal fee when the card is used overseas. This will replace the current 1% currency-conversion charge levied at present.

This does not apply to the society's credit card holders.

Nationwide is keeping its overseas usage charges at 1% on purchases made outside the EU, and free within the EU.

The UK Cards Association, which represents card issuers, says Britons have tripled their use of cards abroad in the last decade.

Last year, Britons spent about £12.5bn on debit cards outside the UK, and a slightly larger amount (£12.8bn) on credit cards.

Sandra Quinn of the association says it is simply a commercial decision by banks as to which charges they should absorb, and which they decide to pass on.

"If you use your debit card in an ATM overseas, that foreign cash machine owner is definitely charging your bank for the transaction," Sandra Quinn says.

"Now it may be that you are not paying your bank for the service, but they are definitely paying fees to somebody - they have to subsidise the use from some other part of their business."
Alternatives

Seasoned card-watchers like David Black, a banking specialist with analysts Defaqto, have spotted that there are a few cheaper debit card alternatives out there.

Fees for some cards abroad can be disproportionate to the cash involved, warns James Daley of Which?

"Metro Bank, which has just launched, doesn't charge any fees for overseas use of its debit card, but you have to visit a branch to open an account, and it is only based in London at the moment," says Mr Black.

"Beyond that, if you have a mortgage or investment with Santander, you can open a Zero current account which again doesn't levy any charges for use of its debit card overseas."

Some consumers travelling abroad for work or business may find credit cards or pre-loaded foreign currency cards may offer better value for making purchases abroad.

However, the Consumer Magazine Which? has detected a general trend towards both higher and hidden charges, which the banks are increasingly relying on as a source of revenue.

James Daley, editor of Money Which?, says that such fees have gradually crept up in the past 10 or 15 years and are now being used to bolster bank profits

"What's difficult for consumers is that the fees are not visible on statements," warns Mr Daley.

"There is an initial fee which may be worked into the exchange rate, then transaction fees which do appear on your statement, but you can be paying £20 or £30 more for a short trip abroad, just to get hold of your money.

"These fees just often aren't proportional," he says.

With consumer pressure on the banks at home, they may collectively feel that its easier to levy higher charges abroad.

It remains to be seen if large numbers of savvy customers cotton on, and choose to move to providers offering a better deal to overseas travelers who want cheaper access to their own money.


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« Last Edit: September 18, 2010, 05:29:12 PM by ADMIN »

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Re: BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« Reply #7 on: September 18, 2010, 08:05:42 PM »
It remains to be seen if large numbers of savvy customers cotton on, and choose to move to providers offering a better deal to overseas travelers who want cheaper access to their own money.


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The solution is having a Paypal account linked to both your UK and Thai Bank(K Bank) then any amount is free

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Re: BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2010, 03:18:16 AM »
Hi DDt

Right I have a paypal account linked to my Flex account , are you saying I can add a second account to the paypal account?

Do use this method?

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Re: BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2010, 03:35:16 AM »
Hi DDt

Right I have a paypal account linked to my Flex account , are you saying I can add a second account to the paypal account?

Do you use this method?

TBWG sawadi




Right i have located how to add another bank on the paypal site but it only gives me an option to add a UK or US bank! Perhaps this is because I am in UK at present. Did you add Thai bank whilst you were in Thailand?

Any help info appreciated.


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PS Coffee Corner anything to add?
« Last Edit: September 19, 2010, 03:41:39 AM by TBWG »

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Re: BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2010, 06:48:19 AM »
Hi DDt

Right I have a paypal account linked to my Flex account , are you saying I can add a second account to the paypal account?

Do you use this method?

TBWG sawadi




Right i have located how to add another bank on the paypal site but it only gives me an option to add a UK or US bank! Perhaps this is because I am in UK at present. Did you add Thai bank whilst you were in Thailand?

Any help info appreciated.


TBWG sawadi


PS Coffee Corner anything to add?

K Bank is one of the few (maybe only) Thai Banks that issues a credit card that can be used for online purchases. Following advice given by another forum member on another forum, I am in the process of setting this up for myself. He has used it for years.


David
You now need a K account with said card, once held, you can set up a Paypal account linked to your Thai Bank account and transfer interbank via 2 paybal accounts.

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Re: BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2010, 03:17:52 PM »
Hi Dave

I already have a Kasikorn account of many years and internet banking  plus the Atm card that goes with it.  However I do not have a credit card.

I also need to set up a paypal account whilst in Thailand so cannot progress from here.

I await the outcome of your attempts with interest!

TBWG sawadi

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Re: BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2010, 01:30:31 AM »
I have a PAYPAL account linked to my HSBC account. I have only ever used it for EBAY transactions.

I had not considered using it for transactions to/in Thailand.

Dude - forgive my ignorance but what are the mechanics of transferring funds from UK via PAYPAL.

I use good old Halifax Reward account net £4.50 SWIFT charge after £5 credit each month.

I am going to have a try with Halifax Clarity card to see how that works.

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Re: BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2010, 08:51:56 AM »
I have a PAYPAL account linked to my HSBC account. I have only ever used it for EBAY transactions.

I had not considered using it for transactions to/in Thailand.

Dude - forgive my ignorance but what are the mechanics of transferring funds from UK via PAYPAL.

I use good old Halifax Reward account net £4.50 SWIFT charge after £5 credit each month.

I am going to have a try with Halifax Clarity card to see how that works.

Ray
This is what I have been told and am in the process of arranging....

Open up a bank account at Kasikorn bank in Thailand

Then apply for a vitual visa shopping card with them. Yes, Kaisikorn is the only bank in Thailand that does this... Its a visa card you can use online for shopping that is linked to your account, all they do is issue you with all the card details, you just never get a real plastic card.

You still listening ??? then open up a Thai paypal account (use a different email address) and link it to your Kaisikorn account using your virtual card.

Bingo !!!

This guy has been using this method for over 3 years (sending funds to wife when off-shore) without charges and I believe him.

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Re: BanK ATM charges for foreign cards
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2010, 11:01:11 AM »
ok, there is a catch... Paypal also have their own fees and exchange rates, not sure you actually saving this way. need to go over the numbers and fees. stop1

 

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