Covid19 in Thailand

[Starman]

I hope the Covid Testing Kits they use here in Thailand are better than the new one's they use in the UK 

Not sure where you got that story but it is wide of the mark.

My wife, daughter and |I have been having daily lateral flow tests, due to the nature of our jobs. We have also been having bi weekly PCR tests. All have come back with the same results.

Those that we know that have had positive tests have also been backed up by PCR positives.

I agree that the lateral flow test have a level of inaccuracy but the figure show here, from personal experience, is far too low.

As for the comments on lockdown. Here in the UK it is what you make it. We live near to the seafront. Many people going out walking. Most, not all, following guidelines with regards to social distancing. Supermarkets and many other food stores open to customers. DIY stores open, cafes open for takeaway, some pubs open for takeaway. To be honest, although I agree that those told to work from home may disagree, I have not really noticed much difference. Sure,I can't go down to the pub or take my wife out for a meal in a restaurant but not sure how many times we would do that anyway.

I can go to the supermarket or off licence, get a few beers or a couple of bottles of wine and go home and sit on the balcony (if the weather is fine) or just sit in the lounge with my wife and have a tipple.

I really do not understand some people that I know, who don't have any reason to isolate other than believing in project fear, when they complain about how they have had to stay in for a year, getting bored, putting on weight and suffering mentally. NO ONE has ever said that one must stay indoors 24/7. The guidelines are there and are easy to understand.

All that said, I did enjoy a few pints on Guinness at a seafront bar yesterday afternoon. Long may those opportunities continue.

[Smithy]

Not sure where you got that story but it is wide of the mark.

Only posted what was said on the Mail-online ..  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9477035/As-2-cent-positive-Covid-lateral-flow-test-results-accurate-adviser-warns.html

[Starman]

Not sure where you got that story but it is wide of the mark.

Only posted what was said on the Mail-online ..  https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9477035/As-2-cent-positive-Covid-lateral-flow-test-results-accurate-adviser-warns.html

I think the "leaked email" bit speaks volumes.

If it was a real figure, why not announce it through the usual channels?

The NHS study, mentioned in the same article, suggests that 1 in 1000 are inaccurate. The figure seems out too. That said, at least it is showing that the tests show false positives. Much better than showing false negatives. Any lateral flow positive will be quickly checked by a PCR test.

Like I said, my family and I have a lot of experience of these test. First there were rumours of false positives, then about false negatives, etc, etc. All I can say is that almost all of the tests I have seen have had a PCR test with the same results to back them up.

I do know of one person who tested negative on a lateral flow test and positive on PCR a day later. I'm no medical expert so not sure if this is an erroneous lateral flow test or if it is possible to have two different results in 2 days. I guess there must be some point when the antibodies become detectable in the system. Can 24 hours make a difference? I guess so but would not be able to categorically state so.

[Tassie]

Is it possible for the flue to mis diagnosed as Covid 19.
Regards

[Smithy]

Is it possible for the flue to mis diagnosed as Covid 19.
Regards

The problem in this day and ages is there is so much  miss-information and propaganda ( depending on what side you are on and coming from both sides ) Its very hard to believe anything 100% these days . If you want to belive that Flu can be misdiagnosed  as Covid you can find sites on the internet that say they can and visa-versa. Same as what happened with Brexit , whether Trump won or that Covid test's are s**t and are getting it wrong a large percentage of the time
Now you cant even quote TRUE scientific and biological FACTS incase you may upset some woke fruitcake ...the worlds going f***ing Mad 

 

[Gerry]

Is it possible for the flue to mis diagnosed as Covid 19.
Regards

The problem in this day and ages is there is so much  miss-information and propaganda ( depending on what side you are on and coming from both sides ) Its very hard to belive anything 100% these days . If you want to belive that Flu can be misdiagnosed  as Covid you can find sites on the internet that say they can and visa-versa. Same as what happened with Brexit , whether Trump won or that Covid test's are s**t and are getting it wrong a large percentage of the time
Now you cant even quote TRUE scientific and biological FACTS incase you may upset some woke fruitcake ...the worlds going f***ing Mad 

Good points, Smithy.

The only way to be able to work all this out is from personal experience. Some of the points on this thread have made more sense than others as they are from experience.

My experience is that there seems to be a very low rate of testing here in Thailand. There are no or very few post mortems here too. Therefore, how on earth can Thailand say, with some accuracy, how many Covid19 cases they have had and how many people have died as a result of Covid19.

Commenting right now on whether Brexit is good or bad is impossible. It is going to take a couple of years for true results to trickle through. I read things like " Britain is now a third world country". It just makes me laugh.

Trump lost the last election, by the looks of it anyway. The true story and true figures may never be known, or are they?

I agree with the world going mad though. Too many people around asking for more rights just because they feel they are different. Why not just all live together?

[Smithy]

My experience is that there seems to be a very low rate of testing here in Thailand. There are no or very few post mortems here too. Therefore, how on earth can Thailand say, with some accuracy, how many Covid19 cases they have had and how many people have died as a result of Covid19.

I think you're spot on with testing. As I have posted before "over 90 percent of those tested positive are asymptomatic' ( In Chonburi ) , before only people that had syptoms were tested hence to low numbers , If you test more people you will find more asymptomatic case's  . And as Covid mainly kills  old people people . yes I doubt many 85 year olds that pop their logs in a small Isaan Villiage would have had a post mortem . Over the last year some people here in our Village have had mild symtoms ( high temperature and feeling a bit rough, even me !! ) but none had been tested for Covid ( as far as I know  ) as Surin didn't have covid ( according to the data ) .Like I did , most stay laid up for a few day and took a few paracetamol .Even with this latest Covid wave , people aren't dropping like fly ,  but it does seem odd to me that this latest wave coincides with the start of the Rainy Season and the start of the normal Cold and Flu season !!!

[mudcat]

An interesting article on the 'Thai' vaccine undergoing testing - I had always been skeptical about the BP articles, but it appears that the source of the technology dates back to research in the U.S. to develop a vaccine for MERS and the Thai connection is running tests and later producing for domestic and regional needs.  Lets hope it can in the public domain and not a private company such as Siam Bioscience. 
Here is the link to the article in the New York Times (which only locks one out after 5-articles in a month).  What is hopeful is that the vaccine can be produced in normal vaccine laboratories using existing procedures and components rather than purpose built labs using scarce and expensive inputs. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/05/health/hexapro-mclellan-vaccine.html

[Smithy]

Dont forget ..Masks are now mandatory or you will be fined  !!!

[Smithy]

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[DeputyDavid]

Girl in our village came back from Bangkok, sick, taken to hospital by ambulance, complaining of difficulty breathing. Two neighbors running around the village no masks coughing up a lung for the last few days. No Covid here folks!

[Prakhonchai Nick]

Girl in our village came back from Bangkok, sick, taken to hospital by ambulance, complaining of difficulty breathing. Two neighbors running around the village no masks coughing up a lung for the last few days. No Covid here folks!

Do your duty DD and shop them.

[dundeemk6]

Girl in our village came back from Bangkok, sick, taken to hospital by ambulance, complaining of difficulty breathing. Two neighbors running around the village no masks coughing up a lung for the last few days. No Covid here folks!

Do your duty DD and shop them.

Don't talk too soon Nick, this might happen when uneducated people start shitting their pants !!!
And I think the worst is still to come for you there ...

I wish you the best and BE SAFE !!!!!

[Gerry]

Girl in our village came back from Bangkok, sick, taken to hospital by ambulance, complaining of difficulty breathing. Two neighbors running around the village no masks coughing up a lung for the last few days. No Covid here folks!

Do your duty DD and shop them.

Don't talk too soon Nick, this might happen when uneducated people start shitting their pants !!!
And I think the worst is still to come for you there ...

I wish you the best and BE SAFE !!!!!

That is rather a crude comment. Why I'd such a put down necessary?

[CO-CO]

Which part was the put down ?