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Re: Covid19 in Thailand
« Reply #75 on: May 16, 2021, 01:22:47 PM »
Well it will take a few to hold me down long enough to get that Chinese jab. Don?t think this order would hold up in the courts. Also, what?s the point. Get vaccine and you CAN still get and spread Covid. You just may be fortunate enough to not get AS sick with it. I?ll hold out for the moderna jab if possible. If not will have to wait til no more quarantine on return then I?ll get the series back home.

None of the vaccines have ever claimed to stop the spread of the virus or claimed that a vaccination will stop you getting the virus. It is simply to supress the symptoms and the feeling of being sick.

From reading the articles where people have tested positive after vaccination, most were not even aware they had it until they tested positive.

From reading some medical journals, it seems that all the vaccines have used the same basic virus to build their vaccines around. I really can't believe that any vaccine is likely any better or worse than the others. Remember that we are dealing with the pharmaceutical industry here. One of the most cut throat industries there is because of the money that there is to be made.

I would have to say that I believe any vaccine is better than no vaccine. Which ever one comes along first will be the one that I and my family will have.

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« Reply #76 on: May 16, 2021, 05:31:02 PM »
due to my medical conditions I was advised by my doctor that I should take whatever vaccine is available as soon as possible. He told me that at 66 years old he has taken the Chinese one with no side effects.   

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« Reply #77 on: May 16, 2021, 07:38:52 PM »
due to my medical conditions I was advised by my doctor that I should take whatever vaccine is available as soon as possible. He told me that at 66 years old he has taken the Chinese one with no side effects.


Friends in Lahansai had their first Sinovac jab last week.......no side-effects reported. One was aged 75.

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« Reply #78 on: May 16, 2021, 07:43:27 PM »
Well it will take a few to hold me down long enough to get that Chinese jab. Don?t think this order would hold up in the courts. Also, what?s the point. Get vaccine and you CAN still get and spread Covid. You just may be fortunate enough to not get AS sick with it. I?ll hold out for the moderna jab if possible. If not will have to wait til no more quarantine on return then I?ll get the series back home.

Whilst I am fairly sure this would not happen, just imagine if that requirement was picked up by Immigration.



NO EXTENSION WITHOUT A VACCINATION CERTIFICATE.


There are many people who believe that could happen  -  it doesn't need a goverrnor to make it compulsory, Immigration could achieve that at a stroke.



Then tell me that you need holding down 0 I suspect you would take that prick faster than a soi6 bar girl.
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« Reply #80 on: May 17, 2021, 12:24:19 PM »
Co-co that was funny, really made me laugh. I just extended my stay for another year so plenty of time to figure it all out.

I definitely do believe in vaccines, those that are proven safe, and effective. I?ll be having it, but not yet and not sinovac.

My issue with this is the terms ?force? and jail. Not gonna happen. I do believe they will mandate immunization as a requirement to enter Thailand, as well as other countries, after there has been sufficient time and product availability. Quite understandable.

However, seeing what does come out of Chinese manufacturing makes me distrustful of their vaccine.

Just because it is a pharmaceutical company does not make it better than other Chinese manufacturing. Remember just recently there was a massive recall of meds that had been prepared with known carcinogens?  Trusting a pharmaceutical company because that?s what they make is like saying that someone is of the highest moral and ethical stature because he is king. Yes. Ok. Uh huh. Sure.




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« Reply #81 on: May 17, 2021, 07:18:56 PM »
Co-co that was funny, really made me laugh. I just extended my stay for another year so plenty of time to figure it all out.

I definitely do believe in vaccines, those that are proven safe, and effective. I?ll be having it, but not yet and not sinovac.

My issue with this is the terms ?force? and jail. Not gonna happen. I do believe they will mandate immunization as a requirement to enter Thailand, as well as other countries, after there has been sufficient time and product availability. Quite understandable.

However, seeing what does come out of Chinese manufacturing makes me distrustful of their vaccine.

Just because it is a pharmaceutical company does not make it better than other Chinese manufacturing. Remember just recently there was a massive recall of meds that had been prepared with known carcinogens?  Trusting a pharmaceutical company because that?s what they make is like saying that someone is of the highest moral and ethical stature because he is king. Yes. Ok. Uh huh. Sure.

So, we have one member who will take only the Russian vaccine. One that will not take the Chinese vaccine. Yet, I am yet to see any stories about vast numbers of people dropping down dead because of any of the vaccines available.

Neither have I seen any stories about a load of people testing positive for Covid after having been fully vaccinated.

The vaccines seem safe, a tiny %%% of people have developed blood clots. Even these figures are likely high as there are no figures stating how many people develop blood clots without having had a vaccine. The vaccines, all of them, appear effective too.

I believe the modern term is "Snowflake".

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« Reply #82 on: May 17, 2021, 08:03:50 PM »
"vast numbers of people dropping down dead because of any of the vaccines available."
True
"a tiny %%% of people have developed blood clots"
What if it will be you? Just take it, good luck.

There no reports of the same about Sputnik V (some other countries use it as well, if you do not believe Russian "propoganda". Just face it. Big Farma's need money and do not care about people.
Never did, never will do. 

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« Reply #83 on: May 17, 2021, 08:06:17 PM »
" %%% of people have developed blood clots"
What if it will be you? Just take it, good luck.

There are risks everywhere. I can't think of anything that does not carry a risk. The risk from vaccines for Covid are miniscule.


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« Reply #84 on: May 17, 2021, 08:15:01 PM »
God be with you, take what they have now available.

I will wait for Sputnik V. . Thai Government already made a deal with Russia to buy some. Will be available for money in private hospitals soon.

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« Reply #85 on: May 18, 2021, 02:35:25 AM »
I'm with you Bob, Sputnik V was not developed along the same lines as Big Pharma and has proven itself to be safe.
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« Last Edit: May 18, 2021, 02:38:04 AM by Tassie »

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« Reply #86 on: May 18, 2021, 03:03:33 AM »
Hungary is one of the few countries using all the main Covid-19 vaccines. A study conducted by Budapest, based on the number of people who've been vaccinated and then been infected or died, shows good news for Russia's Sputnik V
Notably, the data suggested that Sputnik V has so far had the safest record of all the Covid-19 vaccines used in Hungary, the first EU member to begin vaccinating with the Russian vaccine despite the wait for approval from Brussels.
https://www.rt.com/russia/522084-hungary-vaccination-stats-sputnik
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« Last Edit: May 18, 2021, 03:05:09 AM by Tassie »

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« Reply #87 on: May 18, 2021, 07:21:57 AM »
" %%% of people have developed blood clots"
What if it will be you? Just take it, good luck.

There are risks everywhere. I can't think of anything that does not carry a risk. The risk from vaccines for Covid are miniscule.


Less than the risk of clots from taking the contraceptive pill, and much less than the risk of DVT from flying.

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« Reply #88 on: May 18, 2021, 07:47:20 AM »
Expats to get vaccine app as Buriram threatens jail for anyone not complying with jab rollout mission

https://www.thaiexaminer.com/thai-news-foreigners/2021/05/18/expats-to-get-app-vaccine-law-in-buriram/

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« Reply #89 on: May 18, 2021, 11:28:47 AM »
The price gauging never stops for Big Pharma and its supporters.
Commercial option using Moderna not here in Thailand until October 2021 with a minor spat over government taxes on the importation of the vaccine.
Minister defends import taxes on vaccine
The plans were to offer the vaccine at a price of ฿3,000 to ฿3,500 per person including two doses, VAT and insurance although some confusion was created with recent reports when the Ministry of Public Health suggested the vaccine could be subject to a government tax.
In fact, the Minister of Public Health Anutin Charnvirakul defended the tax which is believed to apply to all imported vaccines at 14% of the cost as normal.
Cost of Sputnik V in India is 995 Indian Rupees = 427 Thai Baht.
Thailand will charge 3,500 Thai Baht for Moderna.  Moderna, Inc is an American pharmaceutical and biotechnology company based in Cambridge, Massachusetts.
The grand rip off still continues strong in Thailand.
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