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[Smithy]

Are Sweden talking the right approach ...time will tell !!

Why Sweden Has Already Won the Debate on COVID ?Lockdown? Policy...click here

[CO-CO]

Are Sweden talking the right approach ...time will tell !!

Why Sweden Has Already Won the Debate on COVID ?Lockdown? Policy...click here

Sweden's coronavirus death rate is nearly 6 times that of neighboring Norway and Finland. Here's a look at how the countries have approached the coronavirus pandemic differently.




https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-norway-sweden-different-coronavirus-responses-fatality-rates-2020-4?fbclid=IwAR290LoUWTlNzkUy6tY1w9eXhhYT7hydHUsgyFD9uVAulj0YPxInSvfe_Hw

[Smithy]

Are Sweden talking the right approach ...time will tell !!

Why Sweden Has Already Won the Debate on COVID ?Lockdown? Policy...click here

Sweden's coronavirus death rate is nearly 6 times that of neighboring Norway and Finland. Here's a look at how the countries have approached the coronavirus pandemic differently.




https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-norway-sweden-different-coronavirus-responses-fatality-rates-2020-4?fbclid=IwAR290LoUWTlNzkUy6tY1w9eXhhYT7hydHUsgyFD9uVAulj0YPxInSvfe_Hw

From the link I posted ................

Swedish critics are quick to point out how poorly it?s doing compared to its Scandinavian neighbors, Denmark, Norway and Finland. They do this by pointing to the new global bible of public policy ? the World-o-Meter coronavirus running totals ? which for some people is now the end all and be all which it comes to declaring how really, really bad things are, and will continue to be (because that meter just keeps on running).

As of today, Sweden, which has a population of roughly 10.5 million, has recorded 21,092 cases and 2,586 fatalities from COVID-19, that?s roughly 256 deaths per million people.

By contrast, its southern neighbor Denmark which has a population of 5.8 million has recorded 9,1058 cases and 452 fatalities, roughly 78 deaths per million persons.  Norway is similar population at 5.4 million, and has recorded 7,738 cases and 210 deaths, that?s 39 deaths per million. Finland has a population of 5.5 million confirmed just 4,995 cases and 211 deaths, with 38 deaths per million.

Critics of Sweden have all seized upon these differences in order to condemn their government for being ?irresponsible? and ?playing Russian roulette? with their citizens? lives. If one didn?t know better from all the hysterical rhetoric, you?d think there was an impending genocide happening there. While these sort of polemic arguments seem to work in the narrow band of reality that are social media threads, the reality is that after scaling up its neighbors? results to be in line with Sweden?s larger population which is roughly twice their size, the difference is statistically insignificant for a country of 10.5 million. They are basically arguing that when comparing Sweden to its neighbor Denmark, that a proportional difference of approximately 1,500 fatalities warrants Sweden closing all its schools and shutting down its entire economy and suffer all the chaos ill effects that goes with that course of action.

To put things in even more perspective, while Sweden has already suffered  2,586 COVID deaths in 2020, back in 2018 there were approximately 6,997 total respiratory disease deaths in Sweden ? and the country?s healthcare capacity was not overrun, nor were any of their public systems stretched to breaking point.

It?s a ridiculous argument on its face, and yet, this is the line of thinking which seems to permeate through lockdown countries desperate to justify their own fatal policy decision.

[Smithy]

Who remembers the Hong Kong Flu Pandemic

The Forgotten Hong Kong Flu Pandemic of 1968 Has Lessons for Today...Click here

[gotlost]

[dundeemk6]

You still haven't find a way to get to that remote gotlost ? 

[Smithy]

Looks like the UK Government are starting to back track , they are now saying ( what I have been saying all along ) that  Covid19 harmless to VAST MAJORITY of people 

[CO-CO]

I think we knew that and the figures support it.


I believe the issue is one of those people who are asymptomatic (or with very minor symptoms) can pass it to others who may not be so fortunate.

[Smithy]

I think we knew that and the figures support it.


I believe the issue is one of those people who are asymptomatic (or with very minor symptoms) can pass it to others who may not be so fortunate.

Correct.... and that why I have said from day one that the venerable , the old and those that have pre existing condition should self isolate. I know its a bit unfortunate that those that show no symptoms can pass it one but isn't that how many illnesses and virus's work. We could save the lives of many venerable people of the world  if they were all rapped up in cotton wool but will the lock-down cure be worse than deaths Covid-19  has claimed ? ...And whats next, dothey ban smoking and the sale of cigarettes  as we know this kills millions of people or do they ban alcohol as the WHO say that alcohol consumption is responsible for one in 20 deaths globally each year ? .....now the door has been opened and they know people the world over will do as they are told ..whats next in the pipeline 

[Smithy]

?We could open up again and forget the whole thing?
Epidemiologist Knut Wittkowski on the deadly consequences of lockdown.

worth a read 

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/05/15/we-could-open-up-again-and-forget-the-whole-thing/amp/

[Smithy]

BTW..I was watching the BBC News yesterday ( something I try not to do on a regular basis  )  and they had a report on how undertakers were having to bring in refrigerated lorry's to store the bodies of people that have died during the latest covid-19 epidemic, they made it as shocking as possible as if it was something that has never happened before !!!   

(  January 2000 cough cough )

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/corpses-stored-in-refrigerated-lorries-5353712.html

[Nobby]

I think we knew that and the figures support it.


I believe the issue is one of those people who are asymptomatic (or with very minor symptoms) can pass it to others who may not be so fortunate.

Correct.... and that why I have said from day one that the venerable , the old and those that have pre existing condition should self isolate. I know its a bit unfortunate that those that show no symptoms can pass it one but isn't that how many illnesses and virus's work. We could save the lives of many venerable people of the world  if they were all rapped up in cotton wool but will the lock-down cure be worse than deaths Covid-19  has claimed ? ...And whats next, dothey ban smoking and the sale of cigarettes  as we know this kills millions of people or do they ban alcohol as the WHO say that alcohol consumption is responsible for one in 20 deaths globally each year ? .....now the door has been opened and they know people the world over will do as they are told ..whats next in the pipeline 

Venerable or vulnerable?

[Smithy]

Venerable or vulnerable?

Vulnerable , its an obvious typo 

Maybe the next time I'm logged in my SF account I will pull you up on one of your many typos ....or LIES . But I tend to not to post on SF  and just have a laugh about you via PM's with my many friends on there   

[Smithy]

Back to the Lockdown news .

I went to do my weekly shopping at TESCO today and as normal I took my own shopping bags and face mask .
Now when you enter TESCO , not only do you have to have your mask on and your temperature checked but now you either have to be registered on an online app on your telephone or write down your contact details on a form as your enter .Plus you must log out when you leave.
I have seen reports they have been doing this in the big Shopping Malls in Pattaya and Bangkok but surly there is no need for all this in a small local Tesco in the back of beyond
I always oblige with a smile as there is no point in telling the staff that maybe this is all over the top as they are only doing as they are told
When is all this craziness going to end 

[Smithy]

Back to the Lockdown news .

I went to do my weekly shopping at TESCO today and as normal I took my own shopping bags and face mask .
Now when you enter TESCO , not only do you have to have your mask on and your temperature checked but now you either have to be registered on an online app on your telephone or write down your contact details on a form as your enter .Plus you must log out when you leave.
I have seen reports they have been doing this in the big Shopping Malls in Pattaya and Bangkok but surly there is no need for all this in a small local Tesco in the back of beyond
I always oblige with a smile as there is no point in telling the staff that maybe this is all over the top as they are only doing as they are told
When is all this craziness going to end 

BTW....I missed out the hand sanitizer