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Offline JimNasium

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Re: 2012 Grand Prix season
« Reply #210 on: November 29, 2012, 09:11:04 AM »
Why did Vettel not get a penalty for overtaking under a yellow flag? It could have changed the championship standings.


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Re: 2012 Grand Prix season
« Reply #211 on: November 29, 2012, 09:02:48 PM »
   
FIA says 'no case' to answer in Vettel overtaking controversy
By Jonathan Noble and Pablo Elizalde   Thursday, November 29th 2012, 10:52 GMT

Formula 1's ruling body, the FIA, says there is "no case" to answer in the controversy involving Sebastian Vettel's overtaking of Jean-Eric Vergne during the Brazilian Grand Prix.

It confirmed exclusively to AUTOSPORT that it was in no doubt that Vettel's pass was legitimate.

Vettel was crowned champion for the third time at Interlagos after finishing in sixth position in an action-packed race in which he was spun after making contact with Bruno Senna on the opening lap.

Ferrari's Fernando Alonso finished in second position, a result that left him three points behind Vettel in the standings.

On Wednesday evening, however, Ferrari said it was reviewing video footage allegedly showing Vettel overtaking Vergne in a yellow-flag sector between Turns 3 and 4 early in the race.

The team stated on Thursday that it had written to the FIA asking for clarification over the matter.

FIA sources have confirmed to AUTOSPORT that the yellow-flag sector at Interlagos started at the light panel just before Turn 3, at marshal sector 3, and ends about 150m before Turn 4, where a green light panel is displayed.

However, there is a marshal's post in between these two panels and a green flag was being waved there on that lap.

Under the FIA's rules for the Brazilian GP, if a green flag is displayed before a green light - as it was in Vettel's case - it is the first green that counts.

Therefore, the FIA is in no doubt that Vettel's pass was legitimate, which is why race control was not informed of any potential infringement.

The FIA confirmed to AUTOSPORT that no team had asked for a review of the incident. The ruling body also said it does not comment on the stewards' decisions.

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Re: 2012 Grand Prix season
« Reply #212 on: November 30, 2012, 03:47:24 PM »
If that had happened to Hamilton he would have been penalised!

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Re: 2012 Grand Prix season
« Reply #213 on: December 01, 2012, 01:35:26 PM »
I have more than a sneaking suspicion you are right Nookie !

The link through to Nick Govia's Youtube presentation is still available. That's the one linked earlier called Vettel yellow flag passes at Brazilian GP 2012 .It says on BE that FOM have withdrawn it but that's typical Berni crap! Just do a search in Youtube and you will find it. Anyone viewing the video will see that Vettel pulled off two legal passes before entering a yellow flag zone and then a third one which was completely and utterly illegal. His steering wheel read out was saying FLAG and he completed the pass before the green indicator board. Some Vettel backers are saying that the flag marshal was placed before the green sign and therefore the pass was legal. That is in fact crap! The green light board was placed above the marshal's position.
Many hardened F1 followers will know that at each flag marshal point and at every corner there is a person known as "a judge of fact" flag marshals may not speak to that person at any time as they are independent from them. Bernie has been known to "lean" on them from time to time. They are independent for a reason. In 2001 Villeneuve's car was involved in an accident which let loose a tyre which killed a marshal at the Australian GP in Melbourne. The official line was he died at the hospital, not correct, he died at the circuit. Not only that but he was standing in front of the "first line of defense" IE the wall and catch fencing. He was in the wrong and he died for his error. This was noted by "a judge of fact". His observances were buried. Why? In the Sporting regulations as issued by the FIA it states that should there be a death at a GP the race "MUST STOP"......too much money involved to stop the race! I think that a Brazilian J of F saw what happened but was"buried". Perhaps Bernie was annoyed with Ferrari or perhaps he had other fiscal pressures. Who would know.

I understand that there is an investigation going on regarding the Vettel matter. Let's hope the truth will out.....I doubt it.

As a sidebar at the next GP after the Melbourne marshals death there was an interesting verbal exchange at the drivers briefing. When Jacques walked in Rolf Schumacher said " who are you going to kill this weekend Jacques?" Apparently JV literally walked over about eight drivers and proceeded to turn Schooey juniors face into hamburger meat ! Couldn't have happened to a more deserving bloke I reckon!

By the way, I was there I saw it happen....bloody sad.

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Re: 2012 Grand Prix season
« Reply #214 on: December 10, 2012, 08:55:05 PM »
 icon_latest icon_must Schumacher basically Darth Vader


Michael Schumacher is basically Darth Vader out of Star Wars, everyone has agreed.

Bowing out of his 308th race by metaphorically hurling Fernando Alonso’s body down a big hole after the evil Spaniard had threatened to destroy the big day of the German’s adopted son, Sebastian Vettel, an exhausted Schumacher removed his helmet for the last time to survey the scene with his own eyes.

Naboo TV commentator and F1 expert, Yoda said, “despite the fact he appeared unashamedly evil throughout his career, Michael’s final act of sacrifice in moving over for Seb revealed his character to be fundamentally good.”

“It has well fucked with my head,” he admitted.

The 7-times World Champion began his career full of smiles; good natured and friendly; possessing an incredible turn of speed that seemed almost supernatural.

But over the next 15 years, the young German became tempted to use his unworldly powers for evil purposes and was soon mercilessly crushing his opponents to gain absolute control over the Formula 1 galaxy.

It was only the realisation his own powers were waning that the 43 year old was able to finally redeem his previous terrible acts and will now take his rightful place amongst those who also apparently didn’t do enough bad stuff for it not to be conveniently forgotten, like Ayrton Senna and Colin McCrae.

“Now the circle is complete,” added Adrian Newey, drawing a picture of a wheel.


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Re: 2012 Grand Prix season
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