Buriram Expats
Buriram Province - General Category => Isaan Thai Visa => Topic started by: Freddy on February 27, 2015, 09:05:27 PM
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Appreciate that for many this will be of minimal interest but today I did my first 90 day report at KCI. Arrived just before 10am, no one else waiting. No TM47 required, one uniformed immigration Officer dealt with me immediately and was in and out in 5 minutes. Also, I noted that the other 2 Immigration Officers working were in civilian clothes where as last time I was at KCI for my retirement extension, all were uniformed. Also noticed that the tea money/ tip box was not on the desk.
This was only my 2nd visit to KCI but on both occasions the service has been efficient and friendly. I hope it continues.
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I have to go for my next 90 day report next week. I'll ask them at that time if they are accepting the new online 90 day reporting that's being rolled out in April. Here's hoping.
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I have to go for my next 90 day report next week. I'll ask them at that time if they are accepting the new online 90 day reporting that's being rolled out in April. Here's hoping.
They have previously said "No".... see posts from Gotlost.
However, if this is a national system then I can't see that one local office can have an independent approach.
Consider the example of crossing a border point - that constitutes 90 day reporting and the clock starts again. Nobody says "You have to go to your local immigration office".... That 90 day report goes straight onto the national immigration computer system.
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I have to go for my next 90 day report next week. I'll ask them at that time if they are accepting the new online 90 day reporting that's being rolled out in April. Here's hoping.
They have previously said "No".... see posts from Gotlost.
However, if this is a national system then I can't see that one local office can have an independent approach.
Consider the example of crossing a border point - that constitutes 90 day reporting and the clock starts again. Nobody says "You have to go to your local immigration office".... That 90 day report goes straight onto the national immigration computer system.
I'm hopeful, then. This is a new, national system according to the website. It goes live in a couple days.
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I have to go for my next 90 day report next week. I'll ask them at that time if they are accepting the new online 90 day reporting that's being rolled out in April. Here's hoping.
They have previously said "No".... see posts from Gotlost.
However, if this is a national system then I can't see that one local office can have an independent approach.
Consider the example of crossing a border point - that constitutes 90 day reporting and the clock starts again. Nobody says "You have to go to your local immigration office".... That 90 day report goes straight onto the national immigration computer system.
I'm hopeful, then. This is a new, national system according to the website. It goes live in a couple days.
Fingers crossed ;D ;D
I am looking forward to seeing a post about about the first successful submission.
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I have to go for my next 90 day report next week. I'll ask them at that time if they are accepting the new online 90 day reporting that's being rolled out in April. Here's hoping.
They have previously said "No".... see posts from Gotlost.
However, if this is a national system then I can't see that one local office can have an independent approach.
Consider the example of crossing a border point - that constitutes 90 day reporting and the clock starts again. Nobody says "You have to go to your local immigration office".... That 90 day report goes straight onto the national immigration computer system.
I'm hopeful, then. This is a new, national system according to the website. It goes live in a couple days.
Fingers crossed ;D ;D
I am looking forward to seeing a post about about the first successful submission.
2016 :biggrin:
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Read on another Forum I used today...re 90 day reporting :)
I did mine today. I still haven't seen anyone confirming its acceptance. But it's early days as it only started 7 days ago.
Later posted
Did my online report this morning at about 10am and this email arrived 11:37am.
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Notification 90 days is Approved. You can check status by visit Immigration Bureau Website
Things are looking good and I do believe he lives in our catchment area :biggrin:
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Read on another Forum I used today...re 90 day reporting :)
I did mine today. I still haven't seen anyone confirming its acceptance. But it's early days as it only started 7 days ago.
Later posted
Did my online report this morning at about 10am and this email arrived 11:37am.
Quote:
Notification 90 days is Approved. You can check status by visit Immigration Bureau Website
Things are looking good and I do believe he lives in our catchment area :biggrin:
What forum is this from ? As this this is the first statement that may be positive. Can supply a link
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Read on another Forum I used today...re 90 day reporting :)
I did mine today. I still haven't seen anyone confirming its acceptance. But it's early days as it only started 7 days ago.
Later posted
Did my online report this morning at about 10am and this email arrived 11:37am.
Quote:
Notification 90 days is Approved. You can check status by visit Immigration Bureau Website
Things are looking good and I do believe he lives in our catchment area :biggrin:
What forum is this from ? As this this is the first statement that may be positive. Can you supply a link?
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I don't know what the rules are for posting links to other forums on BE, so if you google 90 day reports NOW online !!! Thai forums...you will find it :)
The writing is on the Door ;)
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Thai Visa forum is often linked here with no problems .............
Have a look there.
Personally, I enjoy the trip down to Kapchoeng every 90 days to report.
:)
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Thai Visa forum is often linked here with no problems .............
If it was TV I would have posted it but some Admins are a bit funny about adding links to other forums...like TV for instance ::)
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Thai Visa forum is often linked here with no problems .............
If it was TV I would have posted it but some Admins are a bit funny about adding links to other forums...like TV for instance ::)
Until its confirmed its just a rumor. knuppel2
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Thai Visa forum is often linked here with no problems .............
If it was TV I would have posted it but some Admins are a bit funny about adding links to other forums...like TV for instance ::)
Until its confirmed its just a rumor. knuppel2
He did say he had an emails saying...... Notification 90 days is Approved.
Obviously not what you want to here , for business reasons love6
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Thai Visa forum is often linked here with no problems .............
If it was TV I would have posted it but some Admins are a bit funny about adding links to other forums...like TV for instance ::)
Chill, Admin is fine with links to TV.
After all, the idea of the BE Forum is to HELP expats here.
So garnishing information from other sources (with the exception of direct competitors) is fine.
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Thai Visa forum is often linked here with no problems .............
If it was TV I would have posted it but some Admins are a bit funny about adding links to other forums...like TV for instance ::)
Until its confirmed its just a rumor. knuppel2
He did say he had an emails saying...... Notification 90 days is Approved.
Obviously not what you want to here , for business reasons love6
By not giving a source your only spreading a rumor and a third party at that. FYI Two close friends of mine were in KCI today and did their 90 day report and were told "not yet ready". See what the the answers are tomorrow. As for not wanting to hear this your totally wrong rumors are of no good to anyone.
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Here's the link :) ..... http://teakdoor.com/thai-visas-and-visa-runs/150980-90-day-report-now-online-2.html#post2993052
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Here's the link :) ..... http://teakdoor.com/thai-visas-and-visa-runs/150980-90-day-report-now-online-2.html#post2993052
Boy that was like pulling hens teeth. :P Thanks for the link. party6 Thats maybe one. Need to C more..
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Another report confirming its working :)
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/812263-online-90-day-reporting-available-from-april-1st/page-13
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Lets C more. thumbup
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I have to go for my next 90 day report next week. I'll ask them at that time if they are accepting the new online 90 day reporting that's being rolled out in April. Here's hoping.
I did my 90 day today at KCI. I had to go in person anyway as I was changing my address. I asked if after this I could do my 90 day on the internet and was told yes.
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Now that does look promising.
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I have to go for my next 90 day report next week. I'll ask them at that time if they are accepting the new online 90 day reporting that's being rolled out in April. Here's hoping.
I did my 90 day today at KCI. I had to go in person anyway as I was changing my address. I asked if after this I could do my 90 day on the internet and was told yes.
Now we just wait for some positive reports. :biggrin:
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More news from Pragmatic
It's a nation wide thing and ALL offices have been instructed to accept. I thought Kap Choeng would dig their heels in but no. They processed mine in about an hour and a half.
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More news from TD's Toddaniels ( he seems to know his stuff :) )
IF I were a betting man (which I'm not)
I'd wager this is being done as a centralized thing and the big changes they did about the middle of last year which finally linked all immigrations offices and all border crossings together, via some mysterious and evidently new thing in thailand called the world wide web, aka; the internet, was in preparation for this roll out..
Entering your passport number on a terminal at Chaengwattana (even in the 90 day reporting area which used to have its own data base); shows name, previous passport number (if any), age, sex, country of orgasm, errr origin, type of extension of stay, permitted to stay until, quite a few of the last exits/entries into the kingdom, last time you did a 90 day report, any overstays, fines for late reporting etc.
I highly doubt that the local offices have ANYTHING to do with this online 90 day reporting.
I called six of the problem offices again today (as I said before, just because I'm a nosy prick). LOW AND BEHOLD, will wonderz never cease? Every single one of the offices I and asked if I could do my 90 day report by the internet said, "CAN!!!" Even the two which alluded to future problems were on board with the 90 day via the internet now...
It would appear in talkin' to the ICT division that the error messages that people are getting is due to them not putting the information in exactly as Immigrations has it in their data base.. Currently there is no way for someone to check how your information was entered.
Funny you said that misskit, the immigrations officer also pointed out how it was "higher up the list" and easier to find too.. I just re-checked the list of countries closer and they have East Germany listed in the drop down!! I mean when did they buy that list 'o countries?
I did find it so typically thai that on the main page for the 90 day online it says Office Contract : Contract Immigration, which directs you to a way to contact immigrations... The good thing is it is an excel sheet with the current phone numbers of all the immigrations offices in the country on it!
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More news from TD's Toddaniels ( he seems to know his stuff :) )
IF I were a betting man (which I'm not)
I'd wager this is being done as a centralized thing and the big changes they did about the middle of last year which finally linked all immigrations offices and all border crossings together, via some mysterious and evidently new thing in thailand called the world wide web, aka; the internet, was in preparation for this roll out..
Entering your passport number on a terminal at Chaengwattana (even in the 90 day reporting area which used to have its own data base); shows name, previous passport number (if any), age, sex, country of orgasm, errr origin, type of extension of stay, permitted to stay until, quite a few of the last exits/entries into the kingdom, last time you did a 90 day report, any overstays, fines for late reporting etc.
I highly doubt that the local offices have ANYTHING to do with this online 90 day reporting.
I called six of the problem offices again today (as I said before, just because I'm a nosy prick). LOW AND BEHOLD, will wonderz never cease? Every single one of the offices I and asked if I could do my 90 day report by the internet said, "CAN!!!" Even the two which alluded to future problems were on board with the 90 day via the internet now...
It would appear in talkin' to the ICT division that the error messages that people are getting is due to them not putting the information in exactly as Immigrations has it in their data base.. Currently there is no way for someone to check how your information was entered.
Funny you said that misskit, the immigrations officer also pointed out how it was "higher up the list" and easier to find too.. I just re-checked the list of countries closer and they have East Germany listed in the drop down!! I mean when did they buy that list 'o countries?
I did find it so typically thai that on the main page for the 90 day online it says Office Contract : Contract Immigration, which directs you to a way to contact immigrations... The good thing is it is an excel sheet with the current phone numbers of all the immigrations offices in the country on it!
Except KCI, or did I miss it?
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^ Not sure ask Tod :)
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Except KCI, or did I miss it?
I've just had a look and KCI doesn't seem to be on the list :(
But If you need the info here it is :)
Contact Us
Immigration Kap city located 77 Moo 17. Surin - Connecticut Dist. Kap in. Surin Province Surin ZIP code 32210.
Phone Number 044-559127, 044-559128
e-mail: kapchoengimmigration@gmail.com
http://translate.google.co.th/translate?hl=en&sl=th&u=http://kapchoengimmigration.org/&prev=search
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Except KCI, or did I miss it?
I've just had a look and KCI doesn't seem to be on the list :(
But If you need the info here it is :)
Contact Us
Immigration Kap city located 77 Moo 17. Surin - Connecticut Dist. Kap in. Surin Province Surin ZIP code 32210.
Phone Number 044-559127, 044-559128
e-mail: kapchoengimmigration@gmail.com
http://translate.google.co.th/translate?hl=en&sl=th&u=http://kapchoengimmigration.org/&prev=search
Thanks Westlife. I don't know that I'll need it, but it's nice to have.
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My next 90 days is in 90 days. They told me this morning that yes, I could do it per Internet.
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FWIW; I've been following this 90 day online program since they piloted it without telling anyone about 45 days ago. It is country wide, and the online reporting is NOT handled by your local office, it's totally centralized.
About 8 months ago, thai immigrations FINALLY tied every immigrations office and every border crossing together by some mysterious thing known as the internet.. :blink:
Now when they enter your passport number ANYWHERE it shows name, age, country, previous passport numbers (if any), type of extension, extension expiration date, entries/exits to the country, last 90 day report, any over-stays or fines. :o
I also have a list of "problematic immigrations offices" like; กาบเชิง (Kap Choeng) in Surin, บึงกาฬ (Bueng Kan) and others all over the country.. brick1
I called every one of them today and they all said, "CAN!!" when I asked about the 90 day online reporting..
So anyway, no matter what this or that pompous thai official in one of those back water immigrations offices says, you can do 90 days online..
Earlier this week not one single person had made it past the "application pending" status, but now people are posting screen shots of their "approved" 90 day reports.
It would appear IF you get an error that says contact your local office when you try it, that the information you're entering is NOT what immigrations has on file for you. Now it might take a trip to your office to have them tell you exactly how they have your address written into the system.. It's quite persnickety in how you put it in and I had to try a couple ways to get it to finally take it.
Sadly, at this time there is no way to enter your personal information and have the immigrations data base fill in the address they have for you.. Nor is there a "help line" which might actually help the thousands of foreigners who need to use this clunky system. steamingMad.
Also while it says it only works in I/E, you can use Chrome or FireFox with a plug in that emulates I/E..
It ain't perfect, but it's a GIANT step in the right direction, especially for all hoops foreigners have to jump thru immigrations wise
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Good to see you here Tod party6
As you say " It ain't perfect, but it's a GIANT step in the right direction " thumbup
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Great post Mr Daniels - very informative and covers any question I might have had.
Cheers party4
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A couple things I forgot to mention.
There is a narrow time window for being able to do a 90 day report online..
You can apply not earlier than 15 days before and not later than 7 days BEFORE the due date for your 90 day report.
There are reports from the inter-web where people who use กาบเชิง (Kap Choeng) have successfully applied, got a pending status and then got the approved status within 24 hours! It also had the officers name from Kap Choeng, so the system may not be centralized and instead handled by your immigrations office.. I dunno.. :-\
Oh, don't bother downloading the User Manual unless you can read thai. I wonder who thought up writing the user manual for a system designed for FOREIGNERS in thai?? brick1
Also that link below the user manual is NOT to enter into a "contract" with immigrations. It is to "CONTACT them and jumps you to an excel spread sheet. It appears to have the current phone numbers of all the offices scattered hither and yon around the country.
Good luck, hope it works for you guyz... Weigh in if you can to let people know..
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The system has major bugs in it and is still not operating correctly, some day maybe.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/816173-90-day-report-approved-online/#entry9289778
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Well, you're right "gotlost", it certainly doesn't work for everyone,
BUT it has worked for some, and any way you slice it that's progress.
I'd still say people should try it, and if it doesn't work, when you do your 90 day report at your local office check the information they have on you..
It's at least a step in the right direction.. Let's not throw out the baby with the bathwater, just yet..
After all this is the glorious "Land 'O Thaiz", Give 'em time..
Although do factor in Songkran (Monday-Wednesday) will probably throw a spanner in the gears of progress on the issues..
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The system has major bugs in it and is still not operating correctly, some day maybe.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/816173-90-day-report-approved-online/#entry9289778
I read the whole thread you linked. No one reported major bugs. Some reported the website told them to go to immigration, which apparently means the data the entered didn't match what immigration had. One complained he didn't get an instant approval even though it says that approval can take 24 hours. Others reported success.
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The system has major bugs in it and is still not operating correctly, some day maybe.
http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/816173-90-day-report-approved-online/#entry9289778
I read the whole thread you linked. No one reported major bugs. Some reported the website told them to go to immigration, which apparently means the data the entered didn't match what immigration had. One complained he didn't get an instant approval even though it says that approval can take 24 hours. Others reported success.
Maybe not major but it has influenza and is not operating as advertised. Putting that aside can anybody confirm a report being accepted out of KCI?
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There is a guy on another forum with the user name; "Pragmatic". He did his 90 day online and got confirmation of success from Kap Choeng Immigrations in the email they sent..
Here's the gist of what he and I wrote;
Originally Posted by Pragmatic
He did put his name to the 'approved'.
ร.ต.ท.รุ่งอรุณ คมหมู่
After it's been approved you have to go back to the web page to check 'status'.
My answer;
Well, even though I have an extremely high opinion of myself; I don't have my head so far up my own ass to admit when I'm wrong..
A quick google of the officer's name shows;
Police Lt รุ่งอรุณ คมหมู่ worked รอง สว.ด่าน ตม.ทอ.กรุงเทพฯ บก ตม. ๒ at Bangkok for Immigrations Division 2 (they run the airports) and that he was transferred to รอง สว.ด่าน ตม.กาบเชิง บก. ตม.๔ Kap Choeng Immigrations Division 4
I bow to your finite wisdom Pragmatic... If I see you on the street I will genuflect and tug my fetlock err forelock as you pass by..
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I am asking about KCI not rumors.
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Sorry there "gotlost", what I ain't is an expert on abbreviations for places scattered willy nilly up in Nakhon Nowhere..
If KCI is indeed Kap Choeng Immigrations then, yes; that guy applied AND got his approval.
Here's the thread, go read it..
http://teakdoor.com/thai-visas-and-visa-runs/150980-90-day-report-now-online-2.html#post2993003
Conversely there's a thing out there on the inter-web called Google. It is your friend... Go find out for yourself.
No disrespect is intended or implied, I always write like this. . . :laugh:
Believe me when I say, "I'm NOT talking down to you. I'm tryin' to talk to you on your level.. Here, gimme your hand, I'll pull you up here with me!!" :wacko:
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Conversely there's a thing out there on the inter-web called Google. It is your friend... Go find out for yourself.
:laugh: :laugh:
(http://www.giyf.com/gfx/en/simpsons_board.gif)
http://www.giyf.com/
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I think over the next year or so On-line 90 day reporting will be used by some expats .But what you have to remember is that those that post on forums/blogs is only a small part of those expats living in Thailand. Not everyone is computer savvy and even those that are may still wish to do their 90 day reports in-person .
Hopefully when its up and running it will give some people an alternative option on doing their 90 Day report and one day we may even be able to do it at 7/11 or Tesco , just live some of us do now when paying bills like T.O.T ,True or buying Bus and Plane Tickets :biggrin:
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I think most would learn to be computer savvy rather than going to the office.. Don't know many people who like a. 3 hour round trip for the sake of 2 minutes in the office and back home again..