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Buriram Province - General Category => Isaan Thai Visa => Topic started by: gotlost on January 16, 2015, 12:12:35 PM

Title: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: gotlost on January 16, 2015, 12:12:35 PM
I have just been informed directly by Kap Choeng Immigration that they no longer except 90 day reports from outside their area. And if you are on a 60 day tourist visa and wish to convert over to a retirment extension you must go to Korat Immigration for a single entry 90 day O-visa to start the concern or go out of country to obtain it.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: pablo on January 16, 2015, 12:46:33 PM
I have just been informed directly by Kap Choeng Immigration that they no longer except 90 day reports from outside their area. And if you are on a 60 day tourist visa and wish to convert over to a retirment extension you must go to Korat Immigration for a single entry 90 day O-visa to start the concern or go out of country to obtain it.


That certainly makes it difficult for anyone spending time visiting here, and in need of a 90 day report!

They just make rules up as they go along, it seems.     madbar
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: iammike on January 16, 2015, 06:03:32 PM
Thanks GL for confirming my fears.

A shame that it isn't possible for me to do my 90 days report at KCI.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: IsaanAngkorTours on January 16, 2015, 08:00:04 PM
Thanks GL for confirming my fears.

A shame that it isn't possible for me to do my 90 days report at KCI.


What about Korat - is that possible for you ?
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: gotlost on January 16, 2015, 08:31:29 PM
Thanks GL for confirming my fears.

A shame that it isn't possible for me to do my 90 days report at KCI.


What about Korat - is that possible for you ?

January 13. Read and weep.

I have just had a first hand report of Korat Immigration refusing all 90 day reports or services  from Buriram residence. They must go to Kap Choeng Immigration. This was put into effect  January 1.
And they will not process any one that does not have residence in their area.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: urleft on January 16, 2015, 08:40:04 PM
Well if you have a multi entry visa going to border checkpoint should be an option for a 90 day. 

Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: gotlost on January 16, 2015, 08:48:27 PM
Well if you have a multi entry visa going to border checkpoint should be an option for a 90 day.

Multi entry visa has nothing got do with this. This is about 90 day reporting. If your talking about a multi entry permit yes it would be an option except for two things. Cambodia will scam you for 1800 baht and if you do not have a reentry permit KCI or Korat will not issue one unless your reside in their area.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: Starman on January 17, 2015, 07:23:38 AM
Cambodia do not "scam" you for 1800 baht. 1500 is the price of a visa. 300baht is the price to pay for leaving same day. The last time I was there they offered me the option to sit outside their office overnight and leave for free. I know there is a dollar amount listed somewhere but it seems to vary. Anyway try getting across the border anywhere else for less, with travel factored in of course.

The visa for Laos has been 1500baht for years now.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: mxyzptlk on January 17, 2015, 08:14:20 AM
Has Kap Choeng implemented mail-in 90 day reports?
If Yes: Has anyone used this method successfully?
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: IsaanAngkorTours on January 17, 2015, 08:41:46 AM
Cambodia do not "scam" you for 1800 baht. 1500 is the price of a visa. 300baht is the price to pay for leaving same day. The last time I was there they offered me the option to sit outside their office overnight and leave for free. I know there is a dollar amount listed somewhere but it seems to vary. Anyway try getting across the border anywhere else for less, with travel factored in of course.

The visa for Laos has been 1500baht for years now.

1,500 Baht is actually Osmach immigration's requirement for an in/out visa + the 'penalty' of 300 Baht for not staying one night in Cambodia. The official visa cost is $30 (increased 1 October 2014) which equates to less than 1,000 Baht. The 'cream off' can therefore be computed as 500 Baht (+ the 'penalty').

We agreed to pay $35 per visa for our tour groups.

There is no doubt that, if you are traveling on, you can stand there and insist on paying $30. If you are doing an in/out visa run then you are at the mercy of Cambodian immigration. My only surprise is that Thai immigration don't take the opportunity to charge a fee for the same day return.

Laos actually depends on your nationality; Brits pay $35 as do Americans. Australians pay $30 and Chinese $20 - they obviously don't like Canadians and Indians who pay $42 and $40 respectively.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: gotlost on January 17, 2015, 08:55:47 AM
Has Kap Choeng implemented mail-in 90 day reports?
If Yes: Has anyone used this method successfully?

Yes and Yes.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: Starman on January 17, 2015, 08:57:37 AM
I understand that there are dollar rate.

I am not American. I don't have any dollars. By the time I have sourced dollars I may as well pay the 1500 baht.

They are also up front about it. Hardly a scam. We do have a choice.

Now......that 40 baht at the Laos borders????.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: DeputyDavid on January 17, 2015, 09:19:57 AM
OK, looked it up on google maps, printed the directions, put in brain book.  It will probably change again by the time I get there..... spot1
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: mxyzptlk on January 17, 2015, 09:52:44 AM
Has Kap Choeng implemented mail-in 90 day reports?
If Yes: Has anyone used this method successfully?

Yes and Yes.
Thanks GL.
Do you just send a completed TM47 + Copy of passport + return envelope with stamp affixed for receipt ?
How log before your 90 day report date does it need to arrive @ KCI ?
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: gotlost on January 17, 2015, 10:39:03 AM
Has Kap Choeng implemented mail-in 90 day reports?
If Yes: Has anyone used this method successfully?

Yes and Yes.
Thanks GL.
Do you just send a completed TM47 + Copy of passport + return envelope with stamp affixed for receipt ?
How log before your 90 day report date does it need to arrive @ KCI ?

They say mail 15 days before due date and mail by EMS as your EMS receipt is proof that you have sent in you 90 day report. Your report date will be calculated from the date KCI receives your report.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: mxyzptlk on January 17, 2015, 11:31:55 AM
OK Thanks for the clarification GL
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: gotlost on January 17, 2015, 01:07:24 PM
OK Thanks for the clarification GL

Kap Choeng Immigration
77 Highway 214/M 17
Kap Choeng/Surin
32210
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: JanAndersLarsson on January 17, 2015, 05:16:05 PM
90-days report by mail.

I haven't succeeded yet. My first attempt in late August resulted in an empty return envelope. When I travelled down to Kap Choeng to ask why I was informed that maybe I should have shown my gratitude for their excellent service.
My next try (with a show of gratitude included) was late December with report date January 9. I still haven't got any response from them.
They say in their info that  "Waiting for reply mail over 1 month, please contact Immigration Office with your registered mail receipt".
I sent my papers by registered mail as KCI state in their info about how to report. I guess it is as good as EMS.
Do you know how much would be proper to show my gratitude ?
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: IsaanAngkorTours on January 17, 2015, 06:40:56 PM
100 baht was considered the 'norm'.


Maybe inflation has impacted on this 'discretionary' fee!
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: toffo on January 17, 2015, 07:22:32 PM
Did my report by mail just over 3 months ago.. Got a phone call saying I had to go next time.. I asked why and they said just in case your Dead... Very very stupid and dumb excuse.. They returned it all good by mail..  Went last week to do  the report after the last and I was in and out and Another 3 hours return trip wasted..
Before I went I called them again to see if I could report by mail again only to be told NO.. Their excuse was that things get lost in the post and I have to go there..  I thought that's what recorded post was for.... Obviouslthey don't follow their own rules but make them up as they go along..
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: davureborn on January 17, 2015, 10:31:42 PM
No way am I going to send my passport by pigeon, normal or registered post in Thailand if I can help it.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: mxyzptlk on January 18, 2015, 07:24:26 AM
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Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: mxyzptlk on January 18, 2015, 07:25:34 AM
No way am I going to send my passport by pigeon, normal or registered post in Thailand if I can help it.
You don't send your passport for a 90 day report, a photocopy is what's required.....
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: IsaanAngkorTours on January 18, 2015, 08:15:43 AM
I understand that there are dollar rate.

I am not American. I don't have any dollars. By the time I have sourced dollars I may as well pay the 1500 baht.

They are also up front about it. Hardly a scam. We do have a choice.

Now......that 40 baht at the Laos borders????.

The visa rate quoted by the Cambodian Immigration Dept is ONLY in US$. It increased from $20 to $30 last October. The rate quoted at the borders is purely at the whim/discretion of the corrupt immigration officers whether it be in US$ or Thai baht. Different borders ask for different amounts. Anything other than $30, or its Thai equivalent (just under 1,000baht today) is a scam!  1,500baht is a total rip off.  slapfight
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: gotlost on January 18, 2015, 10:33:16 AM
No way am I going to send my passport by pigeon, normal or registered post in Thailand if I can help it.

You DO NOT send your passport. You send copy of relevant passport pages.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: Starman on January 19, 2015, 09:08:20 AM
Just for information. I went across the border at Chong Chom yesterday.

They do not accept US dollars.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: NongKi bloke on January 19, 2015, 03:16:26 PM
Cambodian visa can be done online. Then you pay the going rate.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: Starman on January 19, 2015, 03:33:37 PM
The Cambodian Immigration at ChongChom/Osamach don't accept E-Visas.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: NongKi bloke on January 19, 2015, 03:40:19 PM
Ok, that sounds like something they'd pull. Aranya no problem unless they've had a change of heart also. A year ago no problem.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: Starman on January 19, 2015, 03:41:48 PM
Got this from the Cambodian E-visa website:

Cambodia e-Visas are valid for the same terms as tourist visas - thirty days' maximum stay or 24 hours' minimum stay, valid for 90 days from date of issue. E-Visa holders can enter through the following points of entry:

    Both Cambodia international airports - Phnom Penh International Airport and Siem Reap International Airport
    Two Thailand border crossings: Cham Yeam (Koh Kong) and Poi Pet
    One Vietnam border crossing: Bavet (Svay Rieng)
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: NongKi bloke on January 19, 2015, 03:47:56 PM
There probably the only ones linked together online.
Title: Re: Kap Choeng Immigration Update.
Post by: IsaanAngkorTours on January 19, 2015, 05:42:54 PM
Got this from the Cambodian E-visa website:

Cambodia e-Visas are valid for the same terms as tourist visas - thirty days' maximum stay or 24 hours' minimum stay, valid for 90 days from date of issue. E-Visa holders can enter through the following points of entry:

    Both Cambodia international airports - Phnom Penh International Airport and Siem Reap International Airport
    Two Thailand border crossings: Cham Yeam (Koh Kong) and Poi Pet
    One Vietnam border crossing: Bavet (Svay Rieng)


Just to complete the circle  -  you can exit through ANY border point with an e-visa. An e-visa actually costs $40.

I have entered through Koh Kong a couple of times and returned through Chong Chom.