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Title: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: nookiebear on December 29, 2012, 05:43:14 AM
The 1 st of the 7 deadliest days resulted in 33 dead & 322 injuries...........
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: gotlost on December 29, 2012, 08:17:44 AM
Any side bets on the final numbers. I'll say 346..
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: F1ART on December 29, 2012, 01:23:27 PM
282
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: gotlost on December 29, 2012, 02:51:47 PM
Now up to 71.

New Year road death toll rises to 71

 

December 29, 2012 1:01 pm

The first two days of seven dangerous New Year Holidays saw71 people killed and 826 injured, the road safety management committee announced Saturday.
 The second day of the seven-day period or on Friday, 495 road accidents were reported and 38 people were killed and 504 others injured.

 Drunk driving remained the biggest cause of the accidents. The committee said 32.32 per cent of the accidents involved drunk driving.

 The Nation


Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: sao baht on December 29, 2012, 03:23:17 PM
Any side bets on the final numbers. I'll say 346..

33 on day One.38 on day Two, an average of 35.5 so I'll go for 254 .

But hope its much less  pray1
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on December 29, 2012, 03:58:03 PM
I wonder what the penalties will be for those that caused accidents and did not die. We read that 32% of accidents involved drunk driving.

I would hope that custodial sentences are meted out to the 32% minus those that died + a minimum 5 year ban on driving.

Of course that is wishful thinking. There will be minimal fines, and no doubt those having to pay will have done it many times before!
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: CO-CO on December 29, 2012, 05:42:24 PM
Worrying that twice as many accidents were caused by sober drivers.

This could give rise to a 'gun law type poll' - if drink driving was decriminalised it could lead to less accidents as there would be fewer sober drivers...........
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on December 29, 2012, 06:06:19 PM
Worrying that twice as many accidents were caused by sober drivers.

This could give rise to a 'gun law type poll' - if drink driving was decriminalised it could lead to less accidents as there would be fewer sober drivers...........

Go and watch the sunset CoCo!
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: Murtle_71 on December 29, 2012, 06:57:18 PM
Worrying that twice as many accidents were caused by sober drivers.

This could give rise to a 'gun law type poll' - if drink driving was decriminalised it could lead to less accidents as there would be fewer sober drivers...........

as with guns most people that are licensed do the right thing
what about unlicensed or dangerous driving ie. to fast
It always makes me wonder why you have to overtake buses and slow drivers on the left side

in Australia being able to drive or shoot is not a right, its a privilege.
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: Prakhonchai Nick on December 29, 2012, 07:03:55 PM
Worrying that twice as many accidents were caused by sober drivers.

This could give rise to a 'gun law type poll' - if drink driving was decriminalised it could lead to less accidents as there would be fewer sober drivers...........

as with guns most people that are licensed do the right thing
what about unlicensed or dangerous driving ie. to fast
It always makes me wonder why you have to overtake buses and slow drivers on the left side

in Australia being able to drive or shoot is not a right, its a privilege.


The missing factor in your post, with respect, Myrtle, is education.

The drivers that stay in the outside lanes continuously (and I would estimate them to be more than 50% of all motorists, are totally unaware that they should not be there.

They should be fined off the roads! A driving blitz is needed - not piecemeal stopping motorbikes for no helmets and taking 100bt!

Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: Speros on December 29, 2012, 07:05:08 PM
Worrying that twice as many accidents were caused by sober drivers.

This could give rise to a 'gun law type poll' - if drink driving was decriminalised it could lead to less accidents as there would be fewer sober drivers...........

as with guns most people that are licensed do the right thing
what about unlicensed or dangerous driving ie. to fast
It always makes me wonder why you have to overtake buses and slow drivers on the left side

in Australia being able to drive or shoot is not a right, its a privilege.
absolutely correct...it is a privilege that has responsibilities. Better licencing and training before people hit the road....loss of licence for multiple or major infringement, of course the boys in brown would have to pick up the ball on that. 
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: CO-CO on December 29, 2012, 08:20:45 PM
All very good points. Most people have to pass a test or meet set criteria to obtain a licence for anything..

Not in Thailand!  Fail a test, pay 500 Baht. - get a licence.

I have an English language version of the Thai highway code. Well written, sponsored by H.M. - I doubt more than 5% of Thais. Have read it.
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: mike on December 30, 2012, 03:11:25 AM
Worrying that twice as many accidents were caused by sober drivers.

This could give rise to a 'gun law type poll' - if drink driving was decriminalised it could lead to less accidents as there would be fewer sober drivers...........

as with guns most people that are licensed do the right thing
what about unlicensed or dangerous driving ie. to fast
It always makes me wonder why you have to overtake buses and slow drivers on the left side

in Australia being able to drive or shoot is not a right, its a privilege.

Interestingly it is legal to overtake on the inside lane in the US and it is something that I quiet like when I drive over there.
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: nookiebear on December 30, 2012, 05:01:33 AM
A question in the driving test here in Thailand is.........Where is it illegal to underpass......
      ANS..............a BUSLANE!.............
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: sao baht on December 30, 2012, 10:28:01 AM
I don't remember seeing that question Nookie  nono

http://apps.dlt.go.th/driving_hp/ELearnning/E-Learning2.swf





http://apps.dlt.go.th/driving_hp/ELearnning/E-Learning2.swf
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: sao baht on December 30, 2012, 10:38:52 AM
The post above

1. Click the page to enter main site
2. Click Change Language (top right hand corner)
3. Click Test for Exam

There are 30 questions. The pass mark is 23. If you get a question wrong, it will tell you what the correct answer should be.


On the same site you can read the Rules of the Road. There's some useful information there including the areas covered in the test.
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: nookiebear on December 30, 2012, 10:44:48 AM
That question appeared both times I took the computer test,you get both licences on the same day but you have to sit the test twice too!
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: nookiebear on December 30, 2012, 10:45:42 AM
The post above

1. Click the page to enter main site
2. Click Change Language (top right hand corner)
3. Click Test for Exam

There are 30 questions. The pass mark is 23. If you get a question wrong, it will tell you what the correct answer should be.


On the same site you can read the Rules of the Road. There's some useful information there including the areas covered in the test.
There are 200 questions which the computer picks at random
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: sao baht on December 30, 2012, 10:58:56 AM
That question appeared both times I took the computer test,you get both licences on the same day but you have to sit the test twice too!

Ok, you maybe correct but over the years I have heard many Urban Legends about questions that are on the Thai Driving Test that are off course lies just to poke fun at the Thai Driving Test.Maybe by people who have failed the test and had to pay a back-hander for their licence.
If you have a Full UK Licence you only need to do an eye test , a few reflex tests and drive around the car-park ...you don't need to do the computer test. !!!!
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: nookiebear on December 30, 2012, 11:09:08 AM
I have a full UK Driving Licence,the old paper one,,,,At Nang Rong they wouldn't accept it & I had to do both full tests!
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: sao baht on December 30, 2012, 11:13:04 AM
I have a full UK Driving Licence,the old paper one,,,,At Nang Rong they wouldn't accept it & I had to do both full tests!
Correct ,you need The photocard driving licence

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XkyaXZ1rRaU/RycJd9G4ySI/AAAAAAAAArw/M8dA3rw5-wI/s400/UK+driving+licence.jpg)
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: sao baht on December 30, 2012, 11:32:32 AM
2011    Total           Daily                   2012    Total           Daily   
Day     Deaths  Injuries Deaths Injuries          Day   Deaths  Injuries        Deaths  Injuries
1        34       501     34      501            1       33       322     33      322
2        94       1,051   60      550            2       71       826     38      504
3        165      1,782   71      731            3       148      1,362   77      536
4        241      2,382   76      600            4               
5        282      2,783   41      401            5               
6        314      3,166   32      383            6               
7        358      3,750   44      584            7 


Day 3 ......77 :o
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: urleft on December 30, 2012, 10:05:50 PM
I have a full UK Driving Licence,the old paper one,,,,At Nang Rong they wouldn't accept it & I had to do both full tests!

I have and Alabama Driver's license with both motorcycle and car endorsements.  I also have a valid International Driver's permit (IDP) for both Car and Cycle.   

To get a Thai Driver's license for Motorcycles and another for Cars, I just had to provide copies of the IDP and test was skipped (expect for depth and color).  However, I also had to have a Thai police report on me being a great guy (once they saw my Concealed Weapons License I got it immediately).   

So no test other than color and depth, and I got a 1 year license.  Understand that if I wait until the licenses expire and have a valid Thai visa, I can get 5 year licenses next time. 


Bottom line, if you are going for Thai Driver's Licenses, save yourself hassle and get an IDP that includes both car and motorcycle. 

As an aside, every year get at least 12 new passport photos, the Licensing place at your town may or may not require them, but a visa renewal will almost always need them.
 
 
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: sao baht on December 31, 2012, 05:50:15 PM
Thai death toll rises to 202 during New Year's holidays: Road Safety Centre

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BANGKOK, Dec 31 - Thailand's Road Safety Centre reports that the death toll so far during the first four days of the New Year's holidays has reached 202, with Nakhon Pathom province seeing the highest number at 11 persons.

 Deputy Prime Minister/Education Minister Phongthep Thepkanjana said the number of road accidents has reached 1,827, while 1,898 have been injured, with Chiang Mai province seeing the most road accidents at 89 and the most injured at 91, followed by Chiang Rai at 59 with also 59 injured, and Nakhon Sawan at 54 with 58 injured.

 Following Nakhon Pathom's highest death toll, Chiang Mai was second with 10, and Petchabun third at eight dead.

 So far, 15 provinces have not recorded casualties -- 3 provinces in the north, 4 in the northeast, 4 in the central region, and 4 in the south.

 Trat province in Thailand's east has not recorded any road accident in the past days.

 According to Road Safety Directing Center, Mr Phongthep said drunken-driving is the main cause of death at 35 per cent.

 During the past 24 hours as of December 30, the fourth day of the safe driving campaign, there were 505 road accidents nationwide with Chiang Mai still the province seeing the highest number of accidents at 28, followed by Buri Ram at 21, and Petchabun at 19.

MCOT online news (http://www.mcot.net/site/content?id=50e127ab150ba0325d0000fa#.UOFswUdn9e2)
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: Alan on December 31, 2012, 07:36:51 PM
15 provencies have not recorde casualties. Does this mean they had none to report or have been to busy partying to report? party9
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: nookiebear on January 01, 2013, 05:11:32 AM
15 provencies have not recorde casualties. Does this mean they had none to report or have been to busy partying to report? party9
I think the latter!
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: sao baht on January 02, 2013, 12:16:33 PM
Road accidents claim 332 lives in first six of 'Seven Dangerous Days' | MCOT.net (http://"http://www.mcot.net/site/content?id=50e3bdbc150ba0eb55000134#.UOPAa7bw7x5")

                          (http://image.mcot.net/media/images/2013-01-02/20130102115524-640x390x2.jpg) (http://"http://image.mcot.net/media/images/2013-01-02/20130102115524.jpg")       

Road accidents claim 332 lives in first six of 'Seven Dangerous Days'


            By Digital Media | 2 ม.ค. 2556 11:55       

BANGKOK, Jan 2 -Thailand's death toll from road accidents during the  first six days of the "Seven Dangerous Days” of the New Year's holidays  has reached 332, while the number of injured has climbed to more than  three thousand, according to the National Road Safety Centre.
   
    Deputy Permanent-Secretary for Interior Panadda Diskul said there were  2,884 accidents between December 27 and January 1, 0.98 per cent up from  last year's record.
   
    He said the accumulated death toll has climbed to 332, 5.40 per cent up  from last year, while the number of injured was recorded at 3,037, 2.54  per cent lower than last year.
   
    Mr Panadda said Trat is the only province with no record of any  accidents during the first six days of  the "Seven Dangerous Days".
   
    For the New Year's Day alone, 72 persons reportedly died in road  accidents, while 583 persons were injured. The highest daily death toll  was recorded at eight in the central province of Angthong.
   
    The highest accumulated death toll was recorded at 16 deaths in Nakhon Pathom, followed by 14 at Chiang Mai and 13 in Bangkok.
   
    The major causes of road accidents were attributed to drunken driving  (46.90 per cent) and speeding (20.45 per cent), with most of the  accidents (82.28 per cent) involving motorcycles. (MCOT online news)
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: nookiebear on January 03, 2013, 04:37:58 AM
Will last years total be surpassed??Judging by the volume of traffic yesterday I THINK THERE IS A PRETTY GOOD CHANCE
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: nookiebear on January 03, 2013, 04:39:50 AM
Its difficult to Believe Trat has been accident free!
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: Nobby on January 03, 2013, 07:21:48 AM
Its difficult to Believe Trat has been accident free!
+1   party16
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: nookiebear on January 03, 2013, 09:42:07 AM
I've just seen a minibus being towed along the 24,if anyone got out of it alive I'd be very surprised
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: nookiebear on January 03, 2013, 11:12:38 AM
So the final total of deaths is 365 thats an increase of 8.63% over last years total of 336.....with drunk driving the main culprit!!
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: gotlost on January 03, 2013, 01:13:07 PM
New Year road death toll 365
 •Published: 3/01/2013 at 09:14 AM
 •Online news:
 •BK Post
 
A total of 365 people were killed and 3,329 injured in 3,176 road accidents throughout the country over the “seven dangerous days” (Dec 27-Jan 2), Panadda Diskul, deputy permanent secretary for interior, said on Thursday.
 
The road death toll was reported on Wednesday at 332 for the first six days.
 
Anusorn Kaewkangwan, deputy director general of the Disaster Prevention and Mitigation Department, said the number of road accidents was up 2.68% on the same period last year.
 
The road death toll also rose from last year’s 336 deaths by 8.63%, or 29 deaths, but the number of road accident injuries was down 1.3%, he added.
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: Nobby on January 03, 2013, 02:06:48 PM
I wonder what the penalties will be for those that caused accidents and did not die. We read that 32% of accidents involved drunk driving.

I would hope that custodial sentences are meted out to the 32% minus those that died + a minimum 5 year ban on driving.

Of course that is wishful thinking. There will be minimal fines, and no doubt those having to pay will have done it many times before!

It was announced today that 'Imprisonment for Life' in UK, in some cases mean as long as 9 years inside! FFS!!!!!! 
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: pablo on January 03, 2013, 02:28:47 PM
The "little lady" braved Highway 24 yesterday, to take a couple of siblings from Paisarn to Prakhon Chai, for a bus back to Bangkok.

A 17km drive, that she said took nearly 2 hours!  (I've been in that NY romp, and it's totally insane)

After escaping harm from the main exodus traffic, she was smashed in the back of her "Vios" by a driver in Prakhon Chai who "didn't see her".  He wasn't drunk and admitted culpability to both the cops and the insurance guys.

Car is off to Nang Rong for repairs...approximately 1 week.

Just thankful that no one was injured.
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: urleft on January 04, 2013, 12:34:34 AM
It would be at least one more but was able to successfully avoid the hitting scooter that passed me on the right as I was turning right with my Ranger Truck. 
Title: Re: Only 33 dead ,322 injured on Thursday
Post by: nookiebear on January 04, 2013, 05:55:18 AM
It would be at least one more but was able to successfully avoid the hitting scooter that passed me on the right as I was turning right with my Ranger Truck. 

Why bother avoiding ,just add one more to the number!