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Paying income tax on a UK state pension in Thailand.
« on: March 28, 2016, 05:32:47 PM »
Hello everyone!
I am an English man living in Surin with my wife and two step teenagers I am very happy here.
Please could anyone advise me on paying income tax on my British state pension in Thailand? There is so much conflicting information! A professional advisor would be great if anyone knows where I can find one.
Thank you in anticipation!
Denis

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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2016, 05:51:53 PM »
1.Taxable Person
            Taxpayers are classified into “resident” and “non-resident”. “Resident” means any person residing in Thailand for a period or periods aggregating more than 180 days in any tax (calendar) year. A resident of Thailand is liable to pay tax on income from sources in Thailand as well as on the portion of income from foreign sources that is brought into Thailand. A non-resident is, however, subject to tax only on income from sources in Thailand.
I hope this helps.
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2016, 07:26:52 PM »
Thank you very much Tassie!

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Re: Paying income tax on a UK state pension in Thailand.
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2016, 06:26:33 AM »
Hello everyone!
I am an English man living in Surin with my wife and two step teenagers I am very happy here.
Please could anyone advise me on paying income tax on my British state pension in Thailand? There is so much conflicting information! A professional advisor would be great if anyone knows where I can find one.
Thank you in anticipation!
Denis

Hi Denis

You have been given incorrect information

Thai Widows & Expats (Prakhonchai based) have been providing help to expats over many years, including amongst other things, help re UK pensions.

Basically, any money "earned" in the UK is taxable in the UK. Money earned in Thailand is subject to Thai tax, Resident or not in the UK, you still have the Personal Tax Allowance of £10,600, rising to £11,000 from 6th April. Only "earnings/income" derived from the UK over those amounts is taxable - initially at 20%

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Re: Paying income tax on a UK state pension in Thailand.
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2016, 04:49:41 PM »
 ThaiWidowsandExpats.  The information I provided is word for word, direct from the Thailand Taxation Office. You can interpret it anyway you please. The operative word in my original post is "Libel to pay tax".  Which basically means not necessarily so if the taxpayer has already paid his tax or is exempt from paying tax in his home country by what ever tax  threshold that country has in place.
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« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2016, 04:54:15 PM »
Thank you very much! I will ask my wife to look at your facebook as I do not have that. Again, thank you!

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« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2016, 05:14:42 PM »
ThaiWidowsandExpats.  The information I provided is word for word, direct from the Thailand Taxation Office. You can interpret it anyway you please. The operative word in my original post is "Libel to pay tax".  Which basically means not necessarily so if the taxpayer has already paid his tax or is exempt from paying tax in his home country by what ever tax  threshold that country has in place.
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Money earned in the UK (that includes pensions etc) is taxable in the UK. Money earned in Thailand is taxable in Thailand. Note however, even though you pay tax on pensions in the UK, it is liable to Thai tax as well---if they know about it.  That only applies if your taxed pension is sent immediately to Thailand. (directly or indirectly) if you can show it is money "earned" in the UK during the previous tax year, then it is not subject to extra Thai tax.

All sounds very complicated. In practice, I have never heard of anyone being taxed in Thailand on UK income, whether subject to tax there or not and whenever transferred to Thailand.

Going back to the OP, as has been said before, just because you are non resident in the UK, does not let you off paying UK tax on any money derived from the UK.


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« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2016, 09:32:41 PM »
ThaiWidowsandExpats & Tassie: Thank you both very  much! Now, if the foreigner were to buy his wife a car or build his wife a house would he pay income tax on the money brought  into Thailand to do that?  party4 Beer Time! Nite Nite!

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Re: Paying income tax on a UK state pension in Thailand.
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2016, 10:18:47 PM »
Wasn't there a post here about a Farang being ridiculed at Kap Choeng Immigration because he asked questions like this?
I'm not saying 'you have a lot to learn, laddie' but things are different here. Don't ask. Just do it.

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« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2016, 10:24:22 PM »
Better to beg forgiveness than ask permission.

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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2016, 04:41:59 AM »
ThaiWidowsandExpats & Tassie: Thank you both very  much! Now, if the foreigner were to buy his wife a car or build his wife a house would he pay income tax on the money brought  into Thailand to do that?  party4 Beer Time! Nite Nite!


If it's savings, no tax liable to be paid in Thailand. If it's regarded as income, and brought into Thailand in the same tax year, it is technically liable to Thai tax.

As daveureborn said, don't ask -just do it.

 

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