What can be done to stop this?

[urleft]

Obama: Mass shootings are 'something we should politicize'

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/255723-obama-mass-shootings-should-be-politicized


His administration started the motto:  Never let a crisis go to waste.  Per Rahm Obama's first chief of staff. 

[nookiebear]

DONALD TRUMP will sort all these problems out!!

[Starman]

Obama: Mass shootings are 'something we should politicize'

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/255723-obama-mass-shootings-should-be-politicized


His administration started the motto:  Never let a crisis go to waste.  Per Rahm Obama's first chief of staff. 

Good idea too. Why not use a terrible, too frequent, situation to create puclic awareness and possibly near a solution.

[urleft]

Well, looks like the Aussies need more gun control. 



Sydney shooting has terror links, police chief says

    The Australian
    October 4, 2015 2:55PM

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/in-depth/terror/sydney-shooting-has-terror-links-police-chief-says/story-fnpdbcmu-1227555246864?sv=a5951b3ae143e1ae3f8645e39211205a

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop says it’s time for “the whole nation to take stock” after the cold-blooded murder of a police employee by a radicalised teen.

Ms Bishop could not comment on specific details of the ongoing investigation into Curtis Cheng’s death, which authorities and political leaders say appears to be an act of terrorism, but described the crime as “a tragic incident”.

[urleft]

DONALD TRUMP will sort all these problems out!!

Wow, even Nookie can get it right:


Trump: Armed teachers could have stopped Oregon massacre

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump said Saturday that had teachers been armed at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Oregon, the deadly shooting there this week would not have been as tragic.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/10/03/politics/donald-trump-oregon-shooting-armed-teachers/

[urleft]

Wow, new light on the problem.   


British-born gunman Chris Harper-Mercer kills 9 after 'targeting Christians' in Oregon college shooting
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-born-gunman-chris-harper-6558370


Chris Harper Mercer, who was killed in a shootout with police, was born in England before moving to the States as a young boy, according to reports in America

[jmcet]

Has anyone considered making gun ownership "mandatory"? After all this solved the "health care problem" in the states.

[urleft]

Has anyone considered making gun ownership "mandatory"? After all this solved the "health care problem" in the states.

Yup, Switzerland. 

[jmcet]

Has anyone considered making gun ownership "mandatory"? After all this solved the "health care problem" in the states.

Yup, Switzerland. 

So, I would guess that IS where we need to go.
Thank you for your input Urleft

[Starman]

Wow, new light on the problem.   


British-born gunman Chris Harper-Mercer kills 9 after 'targeting Christians' in Oregon college shooting
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/british-born-gunman-chris-harper-6558370


Chris Harper Mercer, who was killed in a shootout with police, was born in England before moving to the States as a young boy, according to reports in America

Great new light indeed. Born in England BUT brought up the American way. Just goes to show.

[toffo]

Born in England and would never have committed the crime there as he would never have access to a Gun.. Just shows you get Access to guns so easily in That Redneck country and everyone kills everyone over stupid things

[iammike]

An informative read

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

• The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people
• But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people
• Puerto Rico tops the world's table for firearms murders as a percentage of all homicides - 94.8%. It's followed by Sierra Leone in Africa and Saint Kitts and Nevis in the Caribbean

[Starman]

An informative read

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2012/jul/22/gun-homicides-ownership-world-list

• The US has the highest gun ownership rate in the world - an average of 88 per 100 people. That puts it first in the world for gun ownership - and even the number two country, Yemen, has significantly fewer - 54.8 per 100 people
• But the US does not have the worst firearm murder rate - that prize belongs to Honduras, El Salvador and Jamaica. In fact, the US is number 28, with a rate of 2.97 per 100,000 people
• Puerto Rico tops the world's table for firearms murders as a percentage of all homicides - 94.8%. It's followed by Sierra Leone in Africa and Saint Kitts and Nevis in the Caribbean

Good read indeed iammike.

It would probably be wise to look into the political stability of those other countries. Also the levels of development within the country and also the poverty levels. I t would be plausible to ascertain that in poor countries the guns would be used for crime and maybe in one on one situations. Drugs crime could also be to blame in some of the countries mentioned.

Barak Obama, in his speach, did say "we are the only advanced country...."

Also it would be interesting to know how many of the countries listed have regular mass murders?

As an example, a reference to a shooting in Australia is about "a (as in 1) police officer".

[toffo]

Hardcore criminals in the UK use the guns to shoot each other.. They don't go into schools and kill children that's a fact.. Big Difference between a mafia man and a kid who steals his parents weapons or buys them and goes onto kill in schools.. What Don't you understand about that??

[smoooth2]

As an Aussie, I'm reluctantly contributing to this post, as Australia has been erroneously mentioned by several posters.

1996 Australia officially banned guns for the general public.

1 - Reply#2 ... the "letter" quoted was first distributed online and in the media before 2002. It was quickly dismissed in Australia as a bogus media release. Aust Police Forces have never heard of the "police officer" author. The stats quoted were completely false. Official records proved that way back in 2002. Reply#2 should be dismissed from any debate in this thread, as it's totally incorrect.

2 - Now, 20 years has passed since the ban law started, and gun related homicides and crime has dropped dramatically. There are 2 official Aust Govt websites that will prove this, if you need confirmation.
www.abs.gov.au      www.aic.gov.au

3 - Owning a gun has never been a priorority for any Australian that I know. Certainly I have never felt the need to carry a weapon for personal security. It's just not in the Oz culture. Never has been ... even way back when guns were legal. So ... perhaps it's better to leave any Australian situation out of the debate. We simply don't have a "gun problem"

We like it that way. No guns ... works for me.

Knives and beatings are the 2 biggies for homicides in Australia.

The USA situation may be vastly different. I don't know. Never lived there and experienced daily life.