ID card Thaivisa.com news

[Graham1]

Thaivisa news that all immigrants mustcarry ID card :

and Hua Hin Municipality.
 
HUA HIN: -- [thaivisa.com] Hua Hin Immigration is from today enforcing the existing rule that foreigners are required to carry a valid photo ID at all times.
 
At a meeting with Hua Hin Immigration and municipality, Thaivisa.com was informed of the news about the immediate enforcement regarding the requirements for foreigners - both tourists and expats - to carry valid photo ID at all times. Thaivisa has learned that Immigration is likely to enforce this nationwide.
 
Valid ID's are:
 
- Thai Drivers Licence
- Passport original
- Copy of passport verified and stamped by Hua Hin Immigration
 
Penalty:
Failure to carry valid ID as above is 2,000 Baht.
 
24-hour reporting
 
Hua Hin Immigration is from today also enforcing the requirements that you and your landlord (condominium owner, house owner etc) must report to Immigration within 24 hours of moving in to a new address. On your arrival card you already reported your place of stay, and if that changes you need to visit Immigration and report your new address. This applies to both tourists and expats.
 
Here are the two Immigration forms to be used, they can be downloaded from Thaivisa here:
 
Here is the TM28 form that must be used from now in Hua Hin, and nationwide if/when enforced:
http://www.thaivisa....-over-24-hours/
 
There is also another reporting obligation, and this applies when a foreigner visits another province and stays for more than 48 hours. In that case the reporting of the new address must be provided to the police, or the immigration, within 48 hours.
 
Here is the form to be used by house master or owner or possessor of the residence where foreigners reside:
http://www.thaivisa....iens-have-stay/

[gotlost]

Only applies to Hua Hin.

[JasonB]

Great,getting more like communist China everyday.

[cooked]

This looks more like a relaxation to me, before we had to have our passport with us at all times. Now you're ok with your DL or other document with your photo. Which we all have, right guys? In Switzerland, if they don't like your face and you have no valid ID, you may find yourself in chokey for 24 hours in order for them to get proof of your identity. Seems fair enough to me.  So Thailand is getting more like Switzerland every day? Ha, ha, you wish it was.

[JasonB]

Cooked.I'm not talking about the part of the statement you mention above(except I wont carry my passport everywhere) I mean't that if you go somewhere for say a holiday,for more then 48 hours,you have to report your location?? So you go away for 2 weeks and spend 3 or 4 days here and there,you have to report EVERYTIME it's more then 48 hours,that's big brother if I ever seen it.

[cooked]

Cooked.I'm not talking about the part of the statement you mention above(except I wont carry my passport everywhere) I mean't that if you go somewhere for say a holiday,for more then 48 hours,you have to report your location?? So you go away for 2 weeks and spend 3 or 4 days here and there,you have to report EVERYTIME it's more then 48 hours,that's big brother if I ever seen it.

If, like me, you spend your time in a hotel, private house or a resort, it is the duty of the proprietor to report your presence, as it always has been.
This kind of law exists in many places in Farangland, don't get paranoid about ths stuff. It has been the law for a long time, now that laws are being reinforced again (or for the first time more like it) everybody thinks that they are being singled out for special treatment. I doubt that the 24 hour rule will be enforced, Immigration seem to be overworked as it is.

[gotlost]

Sorry boys this thread is forked and out of date. http://www.buriramexpats.com/forum/index.php/topic,7873.msg49837/topicseen.html#new

[gotlost]

Cooked.I'm not talking about the part of the statement you mention above(except I wont carry my passport everywhere) I mean't that if you go somewhere for say a holiday,for more then 48 hours,you have to report your location?? So you go away for 2 weeks and spend 3 or 4 days here and there,you have to report EVERYTIME it's more then 48 hours,that's big brother if I ever seen it.

If, like me, you spend your time in a hotel, private house or a resort, it is the duty of the proprietor to report your presence, as it always has been.
This kind of law exists in many places in Farangland, don't get paranoid about ths stuff. It has been the law for a long time, now that laws are being reinforced again (or for the first time more like it) everybody thinks that they are being singled out for special treatment. I doubt that the 24 hour rule will be enforced, Immigration seem to be overworked as it is.

At the moment KCI is going threw every resort hotel, dog house, cat house, restaurant, and bar in Surin and Buriram Provinces and fines are being leaved. That 24 hour rule is just one of the rules that is bing enforced. Do not kid yourself.

[JasonB]

Gotlost,I have read the reports,and your other thread OP.No one so far has commented.Cooked,seems to find everything is fine with a developing situation that could get out of control,the thumb screws are being turned.I understand the need to weed out the undesirables and send them packing,but those of us who have been here for at least a few years,with wives,children etc,and have been bringing into the country 10's of millions of Baht for living,buying homes etc,and we do nothing but good for our local Thai communities are being penalized it seems very unfair to me.And this is only one aspect of some of what is happening,I can't say more,as I know that I will get a "holiday" if I do.Suffice to say Gotlost that this country I care about is really starting to look like it is going down the drain hole,as far as freedom goes.

[Somnat]

Cooked.I'm not talking about the part of the statement you mention above(except I wont carry my passport everywhere) I mean't that if you go somewhere for say a holiday,for more then 48 hours,you have to report your location?? So you go away for 2 weeks and spend 3 or 4 days here and there,you have to report EVERYTIME it's more then 48 hours,that's big brother if I ever seen it.

If, like me, you spend your time in a hotel, private house or a resort, it is the duty of the proprietor to report your presence, as it always has been.
This kind of law exists in many places in Farangland, don't get paranoid about ths stuff. It has been the law for a long time, now that laws are being reinforced again (or for the first time more like it) everybody thinks that they are being singled out for special treatment. I doubt that the 24 hour rule will be enforced, Immigration seem to be overworked as it is.

At the moment KCI is going threw every resort hotel, dog house, cat house, restaurant, and bar in Surin and Buriram Provinces and fines are being leaved. That 24 hour rule is just one of the rules that is bing enforced. Do not kid yourself.

Sorry Gl, I am easily confused and I was getting more confused reading 2 different threads on the same subject.

Add to that, Thai Visas 2 stories from Hua Hin (the one where the Thai immigration backtracked on acceptable ID's)

So, to clarify, if you will .....

WHAT are KCI officers actually doing / looking for when they are going to  "every resort hotel, dog house, cat house, restaurant, and bar in Surin and Buriram Provinces"

"and fines are being leaved" for what?

 

[JasonB]

"and fines are being leaved" for what? In a nutshell Somnat,I think Gotlost means,or the statements mean,fines will be applied if you don't carry the correct ID (2000Baht fines) at all times,in the doghouse,cathouse,bar,where ever.

[Somnat]

Levied to who?

Surly KCI or any other immigration office would not actively go looking around the doghouses,cat houses, and bars just to see if the farang occupants had their ID's with them.

Don't forget that this is a Hua Hin immigration "initiative" that has already been back tracked and changed.

The original report from HH imm had them saying that a " Copy of passport verified and stamped by Hua Hin Immigration" would be acceptable.

Today they are saying " Immigration does not provide any kind of ‘stamp’ verification on a photocopy of a passport as announced at the meeting yesterday"

WTF 



And what is the "24 hour rule"

If GL is talking about the "house master" / hotel / resort etc etc etc reporting a farangs presence, then that is up to them.

[Somnat]

"and fines are being leaved" for what? In a nutshell Somnat,I think Gotlost means,or the statements mean,fines will be applied if you don't carry the correct ID (2000Baht fines) at all times,in the doghouse,cathouse,bar,where ever.

NO.

What GL stated was......

"At the moment KCI is going threw every resort hotel, dog house, cat house, restaurant, and bar in Surin and Buriram Provinces and fines are being leaved."

[gotlost]

"and fines are being leaved" for what? In a nutshell Somnat,I think Gotlost means,or the statements mean,fines will be applied if you don't carry the correct ID (2000Baht fines) at all times,in the doghouse,cathouse,bar,where ever.

NO.

What GL stated was......

"At the moment KCI is going threw every resort hotel, dog house, cat house, restaurant, and bar in Surin and Buriram Provinces and fines are being leaved."

and yes the 24 hour rule also is being enforced. On spot fines of 3600 baht and up to the establishment.

[gotlost]

They are talking with owners and customers if it is of another nature they call  the BiB's and the taxation department.