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Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« on: January 17, 2013, 09:53:13 AM »
Well following hard on the heels of the Japanese Airlines,ANA & JAL decisions to ground their fleets of 787's,now at last the American Regulators have taken the bull by the horns & grounded them worldwide......But Boeing are still 'crowing' the plane is safe........Would you fancy flying on one???
I guess BigBus will be the oddman out!!!!

AIRBUS ......AIRBUS.....AIRBUS.....AIRBUS.....AIRBUS...AIRBUS....AIRBUS...AIRBUS
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Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2013, 10:59:52 AM »
Yeah, Lithium Ion batteries FFS!  (Where do you suppose they're manufactured?)

The B787 is apparently the first aircraft certified for the use of such batteries.  I'm actually surprised that they ever got the "go ahead" to use them, as the FAA has such strict limitations on even the carriage of lithium type cells.

I remember when the first Nickle Cadmium's were introduced (long ago 555), and the birthing problems that were encountered with their initial use in aircraft.  eg. "Memory retention" and "thermal runaway" fires and malfunctions.   Finally got those figured out, tough!  They're also a major pain in the @ss, as far as maintenance goes.

I haven't read the "AD" on the B787 battery, but the requirement to comply could be as simple as a visual and possibly a voltage check, before each flight.  Meanwhile, Boeing is trying to connect the dots and see if these incidence's are connected to a specific supply chain.

Ahhhh...growing pains of a newly introduced technology!

Thankfully, no injuries to passenger's or personnel thus far, and hopefully none in the future.



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Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2013, 11:33:35 AM »
Looking like my prediction was correct and they will ban assault rifles in the home which obama looks like he wants to do.. Handguns are ok...  I suppport the use of handguns but not the big x off arnie assault weapons
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Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2013, 11:35:31 AM »
looks like im needing glasses
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Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2013, 05:54:26 PM »
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Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2013, 05:38:41 AM »
Quote from: Bigbus on January 22, 2013, 05:54:26 PM
Read this Nookie.....made in  Japan battery.....ANA and Jal having problems with there own country made battery...

Boeing for ever...

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engines-components/news/ntsb-jal-battery-did-not-overcharge-ana-jal-cancel-787-flights-thro?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+AtwDailyNews+%28ATW+Daily+News%29&Issue=ATW-04_20130121_ATW-04_614&NL=ATW-04&sfvc4enews=42&YM_RID=songbook45%40gmail.com&YM_MID=1367748
You are somewhat behind with the news....The American people who have stripped down the battery have said it is not the battery which is the problem,they are now investigating the American company that makes the charger.
What about the fuel valves??
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Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2013, 05:40:47 AM »
Interesting Snippet..........Who made the last commercial airliner to be grounded world-wide???................Can you guess the answer.....Boeing.....the 737-400
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Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2013, 03:53:16 PM »
Yes maybe a little behind, must be because I work on a Airbus all day yesterday and it takes a few days to get  yourself back to normal....555555...
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Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2013, 07:50:30 AM »
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/07/navy_seal_minisub_072709w/

The U.S. Navy tried to use lithium ion batteries in a SEAL minisub (see link). The batteries caught fire while recharging the batteries and destroyed the submarine (in port, luckily). The engineers like the lithium ion batteries because of the power density, but the technology does not appear to be mature enough for submarines or airplanes (IMO).
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Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2013, 04:58:37 AM »
AIR INDIA have just announced they will not be putting the plane into the air again before the 17th February at the earliest.
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Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2013, 04:59:42 AM »
Production has now been scaled back with numerous lay-offs.......
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Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2013, 05:01:07 AM »
Quote from: Bigbus on January 23, 2013, 03:53:16 PM
Yes maybe a little behind, must be because I work on a Airbus all day yesterday and it takes a few days to get  yourself back to normal....555555...
BB,Where Airbus are concerned I think you have a mental block!
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Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2013, 02:54:47 AM »
Thought you would like this Nookiebear....5555....
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Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2013, 05:00:45 AM »
Nice One BB
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Re: Another kick in the teeth for Boeing 787....they are all grounded
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2013, 03:03:48 AM »
New B787 Dreamliner kit from Lego.....

Batteries not included.......
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