Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA

[mike]

I wonder if the Americans on Buriram Expats are a true reflection of that country?

I think not - but then again I think that non of us are a true reflection of the country we were born / raised / lived in.

If we were we would not live / be planning to live / coming regularly / in/to Buriram.

I think that we are also special people - a bit like Mourhino  But this is only my very humble opinion.

Mike

[urleft]

Semantics, one mans truth, or another family tragity ..... Words didn't kill those children hot lead fired from a semi auto killed those children

Yes, and truth is that gun activists made these DEFENSELESS children unprotected and left them to the mercy of a deranged individual. 
 
Why cannot American Children have the same protection as the school congress and the president use for their children: 
 


 

[Speros]

Come on bro, no other presidents children had protection?, ESP now with the USA involved on many conflicts, not to mention the first black president....that post is bull shit , right wing NRA brain wash drivel .

[urleft]

Come on bro, no other presidents children had protection?, ESP now with the USA involved on many conflicts, not to mention the first black president....that post is bull shit , right wing NRA brain wash drivel .

The drivel is in your ignorant post, the school protection depicted are the school's employed guards, NOT the Secret Service (president and family protection) which is in addition to the 11 armed guards. 

[Speros]

I posted the reason for increased security, post not ignorant, my educated and worldly point of view 

[urleft]

I posted the reason for increased security, post not ignorant, my educated and worldly point of view 

No, you showed your ignorance. 

The armed school guards are not GVT security for Obama, they are part an integral part of the school.  They are there to protect all the children of which Obama's Girls are just 2 more.  If Obama moved his children to a different school there would still be 11 armed guards at that school. 

This is the 2nd time you mouthed off obsuring facts misleading people. 

It is looking like you are pushing an agenda rather than trying to have a reasonable discussion based on facts.  That Assualt Weapons website backed up what I have been saying, leftests don't care about protecting children, they are just using this latest tragedy to further Gun Control.

As VP Biden told the NRA at this latest conference, the GVT cannot even enforce existing gun control laws, but new ones are needed.  This means taking from the law abiding and leaving criminals alone.  At least 15 gun laws were broken in the school shooting, how will more unenforced laws keep this from happening? 


The Elitists out there follow one set of rules, and control the people with another set. 

[Speros]

I posted the reason for increased security, post not ignorant, my educated and worldly point of view 

No, you showed your ignorance. 

The armed school guards are not GVT security for Obama, they are part an integral part of the school.  They are there to protect all the children of which Obama's Girls are just 2 more.  If Obama moved his children to a different school there would still be 11 armed guards at that school. 

This is the 2nd time you mouthed off obsuring facts misleading people. 

It is looking like you are pushing an agenda rather than trying to have a reasonable discussion based on facts.  That Assualt Weapons website backed up what I have been saying, leftests don't care about protecting children, they are just using this latest tragedy to further Gun Control.

As VP Biden told the NRA at this latest conference, the GVT cannot even enforce existing gun control laws, but new ones are needed.  This means taking from the law abiding and leaving criminals alone.  At least 15 gun laws were broken in the school shooting, how will more unenforced laws keep this from happening? 


The Elitists out there follow one set of rules, and control the people with another set.

I do not get the issue with your pic, so his children have additional security provided by school, I'm sure it's paid for and an option for all that can pay for it, given his position and circumstances I can understand why he does it as I stated in earlier posts...... In all societies elites have one set of rules... Zexcept I guess in a perfect socialist society.
Don't know what agenda you are talking about. Perhaps we both do, yours seems to be pro gun, anti Obama  that's cool, your first amendment right to" mouth off about".... As for misinformed I'm not sure I am and stand by the earlier posts about Obamas additional security and its justification. I'm sorry if you think I'm misleading people, perhaps you are also.
As I have stated on an earlier post perhaps it is too late for the US with gun control.... As there are already too many there and the gun ownership culture ... Not those exact words but you get the drift.
Would armed guards been able to stop the massacre happening or just changed the venue? Is the USA so far gone as to need armed guards every f@&king where the worry would be is that a loss of right of movement and the loss of feeling safe..... I don't know, if my opinion is mouthing off and yours is pure fact I'm not sure much more can be said...... But  I'm in LOS next month and would still gladly have a beer with you, maybe we could talk about something else.

[urleft]

But  I'm in LOS next month and would still gladly have a beer with you, maybe we could talk about something else.

Cheers mate, sounds good.     
 
 

[SOM LUCK]

I'm an American, and while I have never owned an AR 15, I don't think that the answer to stopping gun violence has much to do with legislating gun control laws.  Canada has more guns per person than the US, so the number of households with guns does not correlate to the number of gun deaths, it's something else.  I was amazed to learn that government gun violence research programs have been put on hold for the last 15 or so years.  Obama has, by executive order, reinstated the research.  Whether it is the NRA buying our legislators, unbridled corporate greed, general paranoia, or something else, only open minded questioning is going to get the answers, and I don't America is capable of rational dialogue at this moment. 

[Speros]

I'm an American, and while I have never owned an AR 15, I don't think that the answer to stopping gun violence has much to do with legislating gun control laws.  Canada has more guns per person than the US, so the number of households with guns does not correlate to the number of gun deaths, it's something else.  I was amazed to learn that government gun violence research programs have been put on hold for the last 15 or so years.  Obama has, by executive order, reinstated the research.  Whether it is the NRA buying our legislators, unbridled corporate greed, general paranoia, or something else, only open minded questioning is going to get the answers, and I don't America is capable of rational dialogue at this moment.

hi there mate, where did you get the information that Canada has more guns per population than the USA?...every document or statistic i have looked up is the opposite..with a 88.8 per 100 gun ownership in the USA and 30.8 for Canada, USA being the highest.  just interested on source....

[rufusredtail]

GUN POLICY.ORG FACTS
 GUN DEATHS                     USA 32,163  Australia 236
GUN HOMICIDES                  USA 11,101   Australia  30

With all that has been said about rights , and laws the above figures would you not agree that LESS GUNS means LESS DEATHS,If only  one life is saved from changing the law, it should be changed for the better, and soon .

[nookiebear]

Nearly time for another shooting spree in USA!

[Speros]

Nearly time for another shooting spree in USA!

Nookie, you mean its a quarter to massacre ?.....mmmm bad taste

[SOM LUCK]

Speros,
Concerning more guns per person in Canada than the US, I stand corrected.  My source was the Michael Moore film "Bowling for Columbine" his film on gun violence.  Maybe it was true at the time, but anyway thanks for the correction.

[Speros]

Speros,
Concerning more guns per person in Canada than the US, I stand corrected.  My source was the Michael Moore film "Bowling for Columbine" his film on gun violence.  Maybe it was true at the time, but anyway thanks for the correction.

no dramas, wasn't trying to correct, just wondered why stats were so different ..... i think Micheal Moore would not be the best source for facts...as accurate as Wikipedia...but generally a source of a good yarn with some basis in truth. all good mate.