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SHOULD THE GUN LAWS BE CHANGED IN AMERICA

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #330 on: January 16, 2013, 09:13:03 PM »
Question for urleft, do you feel safe in thailand .

I grew up in Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cincinati and Chicago, I learned a sense of awareness of when to be extremely careful in the certain areas.  I have yet to feel personally threatened in Thailand. 

However, I was monitoring the border conflict with Cambodia and was prepared to more to safer areas if required. 


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« Reply #331 on: January 16, 2013, 09:22:15 PM »
Yes I refuse to give up any more rights (on anything). 

I voted for more special taxes to fix the roads, I was ready for gas price increase.  However, now there is not enough money to fix the roads.  Why?   Because other programs "borrowed" the road tax money and the money is no longer available.   

I voted to save the wetlands by increasing taxes on hunters and fishermen.  But this money is no longer available as has been borrowed by other GVT programs. 

My Gun rights were resticted in 1934, what did I get for limiting my rights?  My gun rights were further resticted in 1968, but what did I gain as gun owner?  More "sensenible gun laws" were enacted in 1986.  Gun Free zone restricting my right to protect myself were started in 1990, The Brady bill restricting more of my right was inacted in 1993, The look like military weapons ban (assault weapons) was enacted in 1994.  What did the gun owner get for giving up his rights?

Enough is enough.  These have not worked and only restricted my rights.   I will not vote for any gun restrictions or targeted taxes as these are all liberal shit to take away the rights of law abiding Americans and get more GVT control. 

Sensible, common sense, reasonable (ect.) control is all BS.  It is about control, not fixing the problem. 

I refuse to vote for any tax increase or restiction on my rights for any reason.


I don't know why you give a shit Keith - you live in Thailand. Ironically, a country where you have no fcuking rights at all.

Sure, there are few restrictions either (on the face of it) but I would like to see how your 'rights' get on the moment you, or any Farang, is found by the BiB with one of your pop guns in your hand.

Because I still own a house in Alabama and if I could every get my TG a visa, I would take her there to see where we want to live.  I still pay US Income Tax, property taxes, vehicle taxes, Alabama state income tax, Social Security Tax, Medicare Tax, etc.  So I have a vested interests in the US. 

And last time I looked, my visa was Non-Immigrant, as you say, I have very little rights in Thailand, but then I'm not trying to change this country's politics. 


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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #332 on: January 16, 2013, 09:43:37 PM »
Yes I refuse to give up any more rights (on anything). 

I voted for more special taxes to fix the roads, I was ready for gas price increase.  However, now there is not enough money to fix the roads.  Why?   Because other programs "borrowed" the road tax money and the money is no longer available.   

I voted to save the wetlands by increasing taxes on hunters and fishermen.  But this money is no longer available as has been borrowed by other GVT programs. 

My Gun rights were resticted in 1934, what did I get for limiting my rights?  My gun rights were further resticted in 1968, but what did I gain as gun owner?  More "sensenible gun laws" were enacted in 1986.  Gun Free zone restricting my right to protect myself were started in 1990, The Brady bill restricting more of my right was inacted in 1993, The look like military weapons ban (assault weapons) was enacted in 1994.  What did the gun owner get for giving up his rights?

Enough is enough.  These have not worked and only restricted my rights.   I will not vote for any gun restrictions or targeted taxes as these are all liberal shit to take away the rights of law abiding Americans and get more GVT control. 

Sensible, common sense, reasonable (ect.) control is all BS.  It is about control, not fixing the problem. 

I refuse to vote for any tax increase or restiction on my rights for any reason.


I don't know why you give a shit Keith - you live in Thailand. Ironically, a country where you have no fcuking rights at all.

Sure, there are few restrictions either (on the face of it) but I would like to see how your 'rights' get on the moment you, or any Farang, is found by the BiB with one of your pop guns in your hand.

Because I still own a house in Alabama and if I could every get my TG a visa, I would take her there to see where we want to live.  I still pay US Income Tax, property taxes, vehicle taxes, Alabama state income tax, Social Security Tax, Medicare Tax, etc.  So I have a vested interests in the US. 

And last time I looked, my visa was Non-Immigrant, as you say, I have very little rights in Thailand, but then I'm not trying to change this country's politics.
I agree Urleft that you have every right back in the USA, where is your right to take your wife home......a more important right than guns....good on ya but I would be more focused with that......more love than guns....I say fu&k Aust as I refuse to pay when I have less rights there than an immigrant legal or not....more power to ya

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #333 on: January 16, 2013, 10:06:27 PM »

I agree Urleft that you have every right back in the USA, where is your right to take your wife home......a more important right than guns....good on ya but I would be more focused with that......more love than guns....I say fu&k Aust as I refuse to pay when I have less rights there than an immigrant legal or not....more power to ya

The right to take my wife to the US is controlled by the US GVT, and it is broken.  Which is exactly why I refuse to willingly give up any of my existing rights to the GVT.   

Are you really implying that if I give up my gun rights I would be able to get her a visa? 

There is a website for people like you:  www.liberalLogic101.com


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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #334 on: January 16, 2013, 10:18:21 PM »

I agree Urleft that you have every right back in the USA, where is your right to take your wife home......a more important right than guns....good on ya but I would be more focused with that......more love than guns....I say fu&k Aust as I refuse to pay when I have less rights there than an immigrant legal or not....more power to ya

The right to take my wife to the US is controlled by the US GVT, and it is broken.  Which is exactly why I refuse to willingly give up any of my existing rights to the GVT.   

Are you really implying that if I give up my gun rights I would be able to get her a visa? 

There is a website for people like you:  www.liberalLogic101.com
No I'm not, and never implied.....I would think its a more worthy topic my brother

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #335 on: January 16, 2013, 10:23:51 PM »

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #336 on: January 16, 2013, 10:32:46 PM »

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #337 on: January 16, 2013, 10:35:12 PM »
Thank god a local sheriffs opinion on constitutional right still outweighs the legislative position...lets not have elections...bahahahahahaha.........WTF

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #338 on: January 16, 2013, 10:37:56 PM »
Aust still has a non political head of state...through the executive council the USA is headed for anarchy in the name of gun rights

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #339 on: January 16, 2013, 10:39:07 PM »
Simple platforms breed simple people!!!!

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #340 on: January 17, 2013, 06:46:41 AM »
Question for urleft, do you feel safe in thailand .

I grew up in Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cincinati and Chicago, I learned a sense of awareness of when to be extremely careful in the certain areas.  I have yet to feel personally threatened in Thailand. 

However, I was monitoring the border conflict with Cambodia and was prepared to more to safer areas if required. 


URLEFT have you ever been threatened in the usa with a gun .

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #341 on: January 17, 2013, 08:03:30 PM »
Question for urleft, do you feel safe in thailand .

I grew up in Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cincinati and Chicago, I learned a sense of awareness of when to be extremely careful in the certain areas.  I have yet to feel personally threatened in Thailand. 

However, I was monitoring the border conflict with Cambodia and was prepared to more to safer areas if required. 


URLEFT have you ever been threatened in the usa with a gun .

Good Question RUFUSREDTAIL.
It would be interesting to see how many members here have ever been threatened with a gun in their own country ? and relate that to the Gun law situation in that country.

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #342 on: January 17, 2013, 10:12:35 PM »
Question for urleft, do you feel safe in thailand .

I grew up in Detroit, Pittsburgh, Cincinati and Chicago, I learned a sense of awareness of when to be extremely careful in the certain areas.  I have yet to feel personally threatened in Thailand. 

However, I was monitoring the border conflict with Cambodia and was prepared to more to safer areas if required. 


URLEFT have you ever been threatened in the usa with a gun .

Good Question RUFUSREDTAIL.
It would be interesting to see how many members here have ever been threatened with a gun in their own country ? and relate that to the Gun law situation in that country.


I have about had enough with these threads. 

However, to the question, I cannot say either way as I was accosted in the Canal Zone (Panama) with a loaded weapon threatening to shoot me.  This was US Territoritory at the time.   Does this meet the US criteria? 

I have also been threatened with guns in Afghanistan and Iraq.   

As far the direct US, I have never had anyone accost me with a loaded gun (other than police).  But I have been around loaded weapons in the US putting, observing, or supervising over 1 million rounds at targets.

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #343 on: January 17, 2013, 10:56:49 PM »
One problem with the reporting on the Sandy Hook incident is that it cannot even be readily confirmed whether an AR-15 (so called Assault Rifle) was used in the shooting. 

There is not a clear report from the GVT as to what really happened:

http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495


You have a major news network saying only handguns were used. 

What is the truth?   Is it handguns or so called Assault rifles? 

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Re: Yet Another Gun Outrage in USA
« Reply #344 on: January 18, 2013, 07:47:49 AM »
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