Who will be the next US President

[CO-CO]

The parmessan was more interesting.

Do you mean Parmesan.

I like Parmesan..

[CO-CO]

Is it just a stupid thing to publicly take the piss out of children regarding their religion.

Is it a stupid thing to publicly humiliate Muslims about their sexuality and  talk in a disgusting and degrading manner.

Is a a stupid thing to kill a defenceless puppy just for fun.

You and your countrymen must be so proud of the great and brave American Army.

If i had my way i would put them animals in prison with a life sentence without the possibility of parole.

I was under the impression that the American soldiers were deployed there to help the people,not use them as some sort of entertainment.

Still as you say they are only young and stupid and that's one of the biggest problems little boys fighting wars.

And you are damn right I an very proud of my American Military that I personally served in for over 27 years.  And our little boys have been saving your ansestors' asses for a 100 years so get some respect.  Without our little boys you would be speaking German and getting bitch slapped for voicing your opinion. 
 
And it's a good thing that our little boys have stood in the way of others having their way and putting you animals in prison with a life sentence without the possibility of parole.

You have your freedom and it is due to veterans like me and my boys in the American Military.  And that is a fact.

You and your little boys will never get my respect nor will i respect anyone who as been involved in the murder of innocent people.But i do respect the American veterans who returned their medals that represented lies and betrayal.

I suppose it is easier to make these comments when you are an outsider.


Still, as they say - opinions are like arse-holes  -  we all have one.

[Jamaw]

Urleft - you are the one that started all this US crap. I've sat back and watched the predictable crap that comes out of US veterans.

I'm ex uk forces and I don't go on about but I will state for the record that the US forces are a liability. The Army do between 6 weeks and 3 months training hence their lack of professionalism.  Compare and contrast with the UK Army at a minimum 3 month and the Royal Marines who have the longest and toughest training of all armed forces at 9 months.

I was serving at the Commando Training Centre, Royal Marines and there was always an exchange visit between US Marines and RM. It ceased in 1978 as they refused to do the Commando course, the same happened when I worked with their Rangers on a 30 mole yomp over Dartmoor carrying 35 kg, not one of them lasted more than 12 miles.

The US forces are technology dependent which is another reason for the high friendly fire rate. When I was in Queensland working with the Aussie SAS I heard the very same briefing that UK soldiers get - watch out for the yanks and friendly fire. We actually don't refer to it as friendly fire but 'negligent fire'.

I sit at a bar in Bangkok and I hear two yanks talking about AYE RAK. Two obese mouth organs telling stories that defy belief. You've lost every war you've taken part in. If you can't blanket bomb then you're clueless because Vietnam showed up the very poor soldiering skills and from then on you've learned nothing.

It would be nice if an American could come on here and not describe himself in the past-tense- I'm ex...I'm a AYE RAK Vet. It means nothing to me as I have experiences that are not un-similar to that video showing poorly trained soldiers making idiots of themselves, just like they did in Vietnam.

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[Ahab]

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2012/1026/Former-Italian-Premier-Berlusconi-sentenced-to-four-years-for-tax-fraud

this has just got to be shocking news! I mean who would have suspected a crooked Italian politician?

Yes guilty of tax fraud but he is not responsible for mass murder like one President i could mention.

Italian Tony, it seems that you like to put down America for supposed war crimes. Before you start throwing stones maybe you should think about the war crimes that Italians have been responsible for though out history, from crucifying Christ to dropping mustard gas on African tribesmen (and many others). 

There is a story about people who live in glass houses.......

I am sure that you think that Mussolini was a lot better than George Bush. To each his own.

I did not know that. Why the heck is he called Italian Tony?

Oh by the way Mitt Romney will be the next president of  the United States (an effort to get this thread back on topic).

[Ahab]

Since we are talking about military service I served for 24 years on nuclear powered fast attack submarines in the United States Navy. I did not do any killing during my years on active duty (except for a few brain cells).

[Ahab]

And with your wonderful pictures, no context is provided, but most likely they were caused by insurgents using Iranian munitions.

No context is provided.

Looks fair to me.  Lucky for the guy the Marines did not shoot first and ask questions later.

That's exactly the attitude i would expect from a Yank.
This conversation is going nowhere so there is not point when you make remarks like that.
One day i hope you and people like you wake up and realize what your country is doing to innocent people around the world all in the name of greed.

Yup, obviously going nowhere.  How many innocent people were killed during WWII? 

However, I do agree that it is too bad that terrorists us innocent people as shields.  Be much easier if we could get the terrorists to line up for battle so we could go at it. 

When you have GVT sponsored terrorism at some point the US will stop being nice guys and take out that GVT, because we can.  But usually in the aftermath of a US invasion, that country usually comes away very good, just look at Italy, Germany, Japan, etc.  If the US was really greedy you would all be US provinces (expect some fireworks from that allegation).  However, the truth is:

'Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return.'


And after 911, I am all for fighting elsewhere and keeping the terrorists occupied away from the US.  But people like you blame the US, not the actual scumbags using women and children as shields, and the terrorists win because of people like you.

Only replying to this because of your continue use of the word Terrorist.
The real Terrorists in this world are not in the middle Eastern Muslim countries,but are standing tall in the Whitehouse Washington D.C United States of America.

That is a load of crap. When the United States starts to intentionally target innocent civilians you might be able to call the USA a terrorist nation. We have not and do not target civilians. 

 It is fine if you do not like the USA, but at least get your facts straight. According to you people who blow up pizza shops full of teenagers are not terrorists, but the US is a terrorist nation.

You my friend have a very twisted sense of reality. 

[chudless]

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2012/1026/Former-Italian-Premier-Berlusconi-sentenced-to-four-years-for-tax-fraud

this has just got to be shocking news! I mean who would have suspected a crooked Italian politician?

Yes guilty of tax fraud but he is not responsible for mass murder like one President i could mention.

Italian Tony, it seems that you like to put down America for supposed war crimes. Before you start throwing stones maybe you should think about the war crimes that Italians have been responsible for though out history, from crucifying Christ to dropping mustard gas on African tribesmen (and many others). 

There is a story about people who live in glass houses.......

I am sure that you think that Mussolini was a lot better than George Bush. To each his own.

You DO know that Italian Tony is about as Italian as pie and mash......... don't you ?

CO-CO  hope he brings H.P. sauce with him for his pie and mash..

[Jamaw]

From the county that preaches democracy and denies millions the right to vote...http://tinyurl.com/8w5u7p2

And for those who are not aware Al Jazeera is banned in the USA and no reason given. I my experience its one of the most impartial and balance media organizations in the world.

[Ahab]

From the county that preaches democracy and denies millions the right to vote...http://tinyurl.com/8w5u7p2

And for those who are not aware Al Jazeera is banned in the USA and no reason given. I my experience its one of the most impartial and balance media organizations in the world.

You are not correct, Al Jazeera is not banned in the USA it is available on cable and satellite.  However, I do agree with you that it is a good news organization.

I haven't checked your link yet (but will shortly), but voting in the United States is very easy for anyone that is legally entitled to vote. Hell in some States you do not even need an ID card to cast a vote.

[Jamaw]

Last time I looked earlier this year one State was trying to get Aljazeera and was being blocked but happy to be corrected.

As for the link, I'm just posting it but I do know many illegals can vote and others can't.

[Ahab]

From the county that preaches democracy and denies millions the right to vote...http://tinyurl.com/8w5u7p2

I read the article and the arguments are specious. The primary "voter suppression" measure that is being considered is voter ID. Ask yourself this question, how many people do you know that do not have some form of identification? I don't know of anyone. You need an ID to drive a car, travel internationally, cash a check, buy cigarettes, or buy alcohol. I live in Hawaii which is a democrat party controlled state, you need an ID card to vote. I am going to be away on travel on November 6th so I voted early at a walk in polling place on the 23rd of October. I walked in, filled out a short form with my information, showed my drivers license, waited in a short line, and voted. I was in and out in 20 minutes and that included parking and walking to the building.
I do not think it is too much to ask (or denying someones right to vote) to ask for proper ID before you cast a vote.

That being said, I also believe that if you are so stupid that you cannot figure out how to get an identification card that you have absolutely no business voting for anyone (not even the local dog catcher).

[Ahab]

Last time I looked earlier this year one State was trying to get Aljazeera and was being blocked but happy to be corrected.

As for the link, I'm just posting it but I do know many illegals can vote and others can't.

It is very possible that it is blocked in an individual cable or satellite provider (or a state somewhere in the US). Al Jazeera is a new agency and I don't think it should be banned. Let the marketplace decide, there are millions of Muslim immigrants that reside in the USA (who would have thought that possible, being that we are the great satan and routinely and purposely kill innocent Muslim civilians according to some people). If people are willing to pay for the service, I am sure that someone will provide the option. Money is money.

Cheers,

[Italiantony]

And with your wonderful pictures, no context is provided, but most likely they were caused by insurgents using Iranian munitions.

No context is provided.

Looks fair to me.  Lucky for the guy the Marines did not shoot first and ask questions later.

That's exactly the attitude i would expect from a Yank.
This conversation is going nowhere so there is not point when you make remarks like that.
One day i hope you and people like you wake up and realize what your country is doing to innocent people around the world all in the name of greed.

Yup, obviously going nowhere.  How many innocent people were killed during WWII? 

However, I do agree that it is too bad that terrorists us innocent people as shields.  Be much easier if we could get the terrorists to line up for battle so we could go at it. 

When you have GVT sponsored terrorism at some point the US will stop being nice guys and take out that GVT, because we can.  But usually in the aftermath of a US invasion, that country usually comes away very good, just look at Italy, Germany, Japan, etc.  If the US was really greedy you would all be US provinces (expect some fireworks from that allegation).  However, the truth is:

'Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return.'


And after 911, I am all for fighting elsewhere and keeping the terrorists occupied away from the US.  But people like you blame the US, not the actual scumbags using women and children as shields, and the terrorists win because of people like you.

Only replying to this because of your continue use of the word Terrorist.
The real Terrorists in this world are not in the middle Eastern Muslim countries,but are standing tall in the Whitehouse Washington D.C United States of America.

That is a load of crap. When the United States starts to intentionally target innocent civilians you might be able to call the USA a terrorist nation. We have not and do not target civilians. 

 It is fine if you do not like the USA, but at least get your facts straight. According to you people who blow up pizza shops full of teenagers are not terrorists, but the US is a terrorist nation.

You my friend have a very twisted sense of reality.

So i have a twisted sense of reality and America does not.
REALLY.

[Ahab]

And with your wonderful pictures, no context is provided, but most likely they were caused by insurgents using Iranian munitions.

No context is provided.

Looks fair to me.  Lucky for the guy the Marines did not shoot first and ask questions later.

That's exactly the attitude i would expect from a Yank.
This conversation is going nowhere so there is not point when you make remarks like that.
One day i hope you and people like you wake up and realize what your country is doing to innocent people around the world all in the name of greed.

Yup, obviously going nowhere.  How many innocent people were killed during WWII? 

However, I do agree that it is too bad that terrorists us innocent people as shields.  Be much easier if we could get the terrorists to line up for battle so we could go at it. 

When you have GVT sponsored terrorism at some point the US will stop being nice guys and take out that GVT, because we can.  But usually in the aftermath of a US invasion, that country usually comes away very good, just look at Italy, Germany, Japan, etc.  If the US was really greedy you would all be US provinces (expect some fireworks from that allegation).  However, the truth is:

'Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return.'


And after 911, I am all for fighting elsewhere and keeping the terrorists occupied away from the US.  But people like you blame the US, not the actual scumbags using women and children as shields, and the terrorists win because of people like you.

Only replying to this because of your continue use of the word Terrorist.
The real Terrorists in this world are not in the middle Eastern Muslim countries,but are standing tall in the Whitehouse Washington D.C United States of America.

That is a load of crap. When the United States starts to intentionally target innocent civilians you might be able to call the USA a terrorist nation. We have not and do not target civilians. 

 It is fine if you do not like the USA, but at least get your facts straight. According to you people who blow up pizza shops full of teenagers are not terrorists, but the US is a terrorist nation.

You my friend have a very twisted sense of reality.

So i have a twisted sense of reality and America does not.
REALLY.

I watched the links. I do not know what to say. I know that nothing I can say will change the way you think if those propaganda videos are the way you see the world. If you cannot see any difference between someone that straps explosives to his (or her) body and walks into a crowded market to kill as many civilians as possible and the US or NATO allies in Afghanistan I fear that there is no common ground between us. Have a nice life.

[isanbirder]

Don't let it bother you, Ahab!  As I've said somewhere earlier in this thread, I am English;  I admire America for some things, and deplore its actions in others;  this is normal.

Italiantony (if you are really Italian), you are behaving like so many people do in forums, winding up other posters just for the sake of it.  Frankly, I don't think any forum needs people like you.... but I suppose they add to the fun, if you treat them with the neglect they deserve.