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Re: Who will be the next US President
« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2012, 11:16:19 AM »


And with your wonderful pictures, no context is provided, but most likely they were caused by insurgents using Iranian munitions.
No context is provided.

Looks fair to me.  Lucky for the guy the Marines did not shoot first and ask questions later.
That's exactly the attitude i would expect from a Yank.
This conversation is going nowhere so there is not point when you make remarks like that.
One day i hope you and people like you wake up and realize what your country is doing to innocent people around the world all in the name of greed.

Yup, obviously going nowhere.  How many innocent people were killed during WWII? 

However, I do agree that it is too bad that terrorists us innocent people as shields.  Be much easier if we could get the terrorists to line up for battle so we could go at it. 

When you have GVT sponsored terrorism at some point the US will stop being nice guys and take out that GVT, because we can.  But usually in the aftermath of a US invasion, that country usually comes away very good, just look at Italy, Germany, Japan, etc.  If the US was really greedy you would all be US provinces (expect some fireworks from that allegation).  However, the truth is:

'Over the years, the United States has sent many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for freedom beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in return is enough to bury those that did not return.'


And after 911, I am all for fighting elsewhere and keeping the terrorists occupied away from the US.  But people like you blame the US, not the actual scumbags using women and children as shields, and the terrorists win because of people like you.
Only replying to this because of your continue use of the word Terrorist.
The real Terrorists in this world are not in the middle Eastern Muslim countries,but are standing tall in the Whitehouse Washington D.C United States of America.

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Re: Who will be the next US President
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2012, 04:25:41 PM »
I think most older English people have a deep feeling of gratitude to the US for saving our bacon at the end of WWII.  I certainly have.

This does not, however, excuse the tendency of American Presidents to see the US as the world's policemen  They are not terribly successful either.

Korea, ended in stalemate, and technically the war is not yet over.
Vietnam, driven out by the VCs.
Iraq, a muddle.
Afghanistan, another muddle.

No wonder they're trying to keep out of the current Middle East situation, though their past actions have led people to expect them to intervene.  Maybe they will, if Iran gets closer to producing a nuclear weapon... or maybe they'll push Israel to do it for them.

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Re: Who will be the next US President
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2012, 05:23:12 PM »
I think most older English people have a deep feeling of gratitude to the US for saving our bacon at the end of WWII.  I certainly have.

This does not, however, excuse the tendency of American Presidents to see the US as the world's policemen  They are not terribly successful either.

Korea, ended in stalemate, and technically the war is not yet over.
Vietnam, driven out by the VCs.
Iraq, a muddle.
Afghanistan, another muddle.

No wonder they're trying to keep out of the current Middle East situation, though their past actions have led people to expect them to intervene.  Maybe they will, if Iran gets closer to producing a nuclear weapon... or maybe they'll push Israel to do it for them.

I certainly agree, if you aren't going to fight the war to win, don't fight it. 

Hopefully the US will start backing off and just let the people fight among themselves.  And get out of the UN as it is one of the most corrupt oganizations in the world.   The US needs to define its national interests and base foreign policy on those interests. 

What is really bad about Iran is that it is the US's fault there's a problem, Jimmy Carter made a mess of it, and Obama is doing the same with Lybia and Egypt.  Watch those 2 countries be the next Iran. 


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Re: Who will be the next US President
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2012, 10:23:46 PM »
I certainly agree, if you aren't going to fight the war to win, don't fight it.

Hopefully the US will start backing off and just let the people fight among themselves.  And get out of the UN as it is one of the most corrupt organizations in the world.   The US needs to define its national interests and base foreign policy on those interests.

What is really bad about Iran is that it is the US's fault there's a problem, Jimmy Carter made a mess of it, and Obama is doing the same with Libya and Egypt.  Watch those 2 countries be the next Iran.
I am with you all the way, my American brother in arms, but is is a waist of of wind to argue with fools that could not see the sunrise even without there cool Italian sunglasses. How easily they forget or refuse to acknowledge the truth. A wiser man than me once said that if we forget history then we are bound to repeat it until we get it right. I worry how much stamina the west has left reteaching the same lesson. duh

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Re: Who will be the next US President
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Re: Who will be the next US President
« Reply #35 on: October 26, 2012, 11:52:59 PM »
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2012/1026/Former-Italian-Premier-Berlusconi-sentenced-to-four-years-for-tax-fraud

this has just got to be shocking news! I mean who would have suspected a crooked Italian politician????????????? :ohmy:

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« Reply #36 on: October 27, 2012, 06:06:00 AM »
Just back from a re stocking trip in Sin City...........Well certainly 'stirred up the applecart ' there,,,,,,,,keep it going slapfight swordfight

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Re: Who will be the next US President
« Reply #37 on: October 27, 2012, 08:16:10 AM »
I've just seen a poll being conducted by THE BANGKOK POST which shows Romney well in the lead......I'm well aware how thick some Americans are but surely not all of them!!

You have a few before you posted this?   wackobar
 


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• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think the Muslim Brotherhood is a fraternal order. Their initiation rite is killer.

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• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think the president has done a consummate job of keeping Iran from getting nuclear weapons – by enacting more sanctions (which have never worked before), working with our “allies” China and Russia and refusing to draw a red line which would elicit military action against Tehran-- while the mullahs spent the last four years developing fissile material.

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• You know you’re an Obama voter if, like your candidate, you think the Israeli “occupation” of Israel is the principal cause of turmoil in the Middle East, and that, before Israel’s rebirth in 1948, from time immemorial the region looked like Woodstock.

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• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think the Ft. Hood massacre (where 13 of our soldiers were murdered in cold blood by a Koran-spouting jihadist) was “workplace related violence.”

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think it doesn’t matter that this president skips more than half of his daily intelligence briefings. After all, he reads the reports at night – or on the golf course.

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I've just seen a poll being conducted by THE BANGKOK POST which shows Romney well in the lead......I'm well aware how thick some Americans are but surely not all of them!!

You have a few before you posted this?   wackobar
 


Does not seem very intelligent to me to alienate a possible customer base.   Business must be really good such that you don't want more customers.   moneysmile



• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think our dismal economy is all the fault of George W. Bush, who left office 45 months ago, and whose average unemployment rate was 6.3% – almost 2 points lower than under his whiz-kid successor.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think lack of adequate regulation is responsible for the home-mortgage meltdown of 2008, rather than a Democratic Congress that (in the name of fairness) made banks to give sub-prime mortgages to unqualified lenders.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think the Muslim Brotherhood is a fraternal order. Their initiation rite is killer.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you believe Joe Biden’s claim that the intelligence community initially told the administration that our Benghazi consulate was attacked by a spontaneous mob – a spontaneous mob of al-Qaeda fighters armed with AK-47s, rocket-propelled grenades, mortars and gun trucks.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think the president has done a consummate job of keeping Iran from getting nuclear weapons – by enacting more sanctions (which have never worked before), working with our “allies” China and Russia and refusing to draw a red line which would elicit military action against Tehran-- while the mullahs spent the last four years developing fissile material.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think Barack Hussein has “got Israel’s back.” By having Israel’s back, the president means sending hundreds of millions of dollars to Palestinians committed to Israel’s annihilation, seeking to dictate Israel’s future borders (so as to make the Jewish state impossible to defend), helping the Muslim Brotherhood come to power in Egypt, and telling the former president of France how much he hates Israeli Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if, like your candidate, you think the Israeli “occupation” of Israel is the principal cause of turmoil in the Middle East, and that, before Israel’s rebirth in 1948, from time immemorial the region looked like Woodstock.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think Islam really is the religion of peace – and that al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Muslim Brotherhood, the Taliban, Ahmadinejad, the scholars of Cairo’s Al-Azhar University and the imam of Mecca’s Grand Mosque don’t understand their own religion.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think the Ft. Hood massacre (where 13 of our soldiers were murdered in cold blood by a Koran-spouting jihadist) was “workplace related violence.”

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think it doesn’t matter that this president skips more than half of his daily intelligence briefings. After all, he reads the reports at night – or on the golf course.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think the “undocumented workers” streaming across our southern border (thanks to the president’s non-deportation order) are all hard-working family folk, eager to learn English and assimilate – with nary a hardcore criminal, gang member, grifter or terrorist among them.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think Joe Biden is clever and witty, not to mention polite and respectful.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think Michelle is hot and Hillary belongs on the cover of the next Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think the oil companies, the Arab Spring or hurricanes in the Gulf states are responsible for prices at the pump more than doubling since January 19, 2009, rather than this administration’s insane environmental policies and war on energy development.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you believe that green energy is our salvation – with a wee bit of help from the unicorns, the fairies and the little people.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think drastically limiting off-shore drilling, closing coal-fired energy plants, nixing U.S. participation in the Keystone Pipeline and extreme environmental regulations will make us less dependent on foreign oil.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think the GM bailout is a shining success. At a cost of $50 billion to taxpayers, the president saved $56-an hour union jobs, while screwing bondholders and giving Washington 26.5% share of the auto giant.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think “gay marriage” strengthens the family.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you don’t care that the voters of 32 states have overwhelmingly rejected this absurdity by passing defense of marriage amendments.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think Obama and Biden care about the middle class – instead of looking at them the way Dracula views a blood bank.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think raising tax rates on businesses, in the weakest economic recovery in history, won’t devastate job creation.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if, like your candidate, you think the question of when life begins is “above your pay-grade” – that you can’t tell if an unborn child with a heartbeat and brainwaves and fingers and toes is human.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think opposition to the incumbent is motivated primarily by racism.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think that Barack Obama – who was raised by his white grandparents, spent his childhood in Indonesia and Hawaii and went on to Columbia and Harvard – was immersed in the black experience.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think Republicans want to put black people “back in chains.” That includes Allen West, Clarence Thomas, Star Parker and Thomas Sowell.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think the man who sat in a pew in Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s Church of God Damn America for 19 years never heard anything in the least controversial – that anti-American, anti-white and anti-Israel sermons were reserved for those occasions when the future president was absent.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think Mitt Romney is a liar – but Obama has told the God’s-honest truth about responsibility for the deaths of our ambassador and three other Americans in Libya, getting the unemployment rate under 7% if we passed his $832-billion stimulus bill, cutting the deficit in half in his first term, his Justice Department having no knowledge of Fast and Furious (the ATF’s gunrunning-to-Mexican-drug-lords operation) prior to February 2011 and that he’d never dream of raising taxes on the middle class. The Supreme Court says the “penalties” under Obamacare are a tax – on guess who?

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think the president is upholding the Constitution – by interim appointments while Congress is still in session, governing by executive order, refusing to defend the Defense of Marriage Act in court, sending troops to Libya without Congressional approval and not prosecuting the New Black Panther Party for a blatant case of voter intimidation in 2008.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think your candidate’s 2008 resume – law professor, community organizer, Chicago politician, less than two years in the U.S. Senate – trumps Romney’s as a job-creator (Sports Authority, Staples, Domino’s Pizza, etc.)

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think Romney would get a kick out of firing Bob Cratchit on Christmas Eve, while stealing Tiny Tim’s crutches and muttering “Bah humbug!”

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think opposition to requiring Catholic institutions to provide birth control through their health insurance plans (in violation of Catholic teaching), constitutes a Republican War on Women.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius are Catholics.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you believe that Ann Romney – who raised five sons while running a household, doing charitable work and battling MS – “never worked a day in her life,” unlike Michelle Antoinette who earned a six-figure salary for serving as “vice president of community relations” for the University of Chicago Medical Center and vacations at five-star resorts on the Spanish Riviera.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you’re blithely unconcerned about your candidate’s past associations with (communist) Frank Marshall Davis, (revolutionary communist) Bill Ayers and (Islamist) Rashid Khalidi.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think complaints about the president increasing the National Debt by $5.4 trillion (almost 50%) in less than four years is a Republican campaign gimmick to divert attention from Obama’s economic achievements – like increasing the food stamp rolls to 47 million (50%) since he took office and raising federal spending from 20.2% to 23% of GDP.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think we can provide health insurance to 10 million currently uninsured – without a plan to add a single new doctor – it won’t cost taxpayers a cent and there won’t be rationing of services.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you’re thrilled at the prospect of turning the best health care system in the world over to the same people who bankrupted Social Security and Medicare.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you don’t care that under this administration we’ll soon have a navy that can float in a bathtub and an army that can maneuver in a broom closet.

• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think your candidate will be carried to victory by the Big Bird vote – like fans of Public Broadcasting would ever vote Republican, without a gun to their heads.

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• You know you’re an Obama voter if you think the Occupy Wall Street movement is composed of idealistic, humanitarian reformers but the Tea Parties are a gang of race-baiting, neo-fascist thugs.

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With respect ,,,,,are YOU trying to tell me that because I have a business I'm not allowed 'free speech'.?
AND after reading that utter load of waffle I would suggest you start to live in the 'real world' or get serious medical help urgently.
Just for the record I have many friends & customers from various American descents including Korean-Americans & German-Americans.......Have a nice Day!!!!!

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Re: Who will be the next US President
« Reply #38 on: October 27, 2012, 08:25:40 AM »
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Latest-News-Wires/2012/1026/Former-Italian-Premier-Berlusconi-sentenced-to-four-years-for-tax-fraud

this has just got to be shocking news! I mean who would have suspected a crooked Italian politician????????????? :ohmy:
Yes guilty of tax fraud but he is not responsible for mass murder like one President i could mention.

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Re: Who will be the next US President
« Reply #39 on: October 27, 2012, 08:42:15 AM »
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/26/texas-threatens-prosecution-against-international-poll-watchers/
Texas says bring it on to those European know it all's.
What a surprise America threatening people.
Just another day at the office.
You must be so proud Ron Texas.

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Re: Who will be the next US President
« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2012, 09:08:28 AM »
With respect ,,,,,are YOU trying to tell me that because I have a business I'm not allowed 'free speech'.?
AND after reading that utter load of waffle I would suggest you start to live in the 'real world' or get serious medical help urgently.
Just for the record I have many friends & customers from various American descents including Korean-Americans & German-Americans.......Have a nice Day!!!!!

As far as I am concerned you are allowed to say whatever you want, and people are free to choose not to listen.   When you call people thick because they don't agree with you or say they need mental help, maybe you should try to look elsewhere than where you are looking for your opinions. 



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« Reply #41 on: October 27, 2012, 10:28:51 AM »
I believe all us europeans and other world citizens would be more than happy not to have any interest in what transpires in America leadership. Unfortunately America is hell bent on controlling global matters and creating financial havoc without and concern or interest other than its own.
Its about time the American people opened their eyes and used their vote wisely and start taking respocibility.
Iran is next on America's list, why? Has it threatened or invaded other countries? Does it have less rights than America to neuclear power or even neuclear defences? It has little oil reserves but a war with Iran would create alot of wealth for those that want it. 
America is the most spoilt and manipulated country on this planet so it comes as no surprise to the educated that it is the most powerful and dominant in world affairs.

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Iran has threatened the existence of Israel, in fact they have said that if they get nuclear weapons that they would be used to "wipe Israel from the map".  I take them at their word.

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« Reply #42 on: October 27, 2012, 10:43:03 AM »
In the end it will be the American people that get to make the decision on who will be President. The debt that the US is accumulating is a global issue. When the financial house of cards comes tumbling down it will not just be the United States that will suffer. I will guarantee that.

I don't think that Obama has a clue about cutting the US deficit or turning around the economy. Romney at least has a chance of doing the right thing. That is why I voted for Him.

For those worried about war mongering I think you are wasting your breath. The U.S will be out of major conflicts for 20-30 years after the recent experiences of Iraq and Afghanistan.  The next time there needs to be a military intervention I think the U.S. will set it out and let Europe take the lead.

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Re: Who will be the next US President
« Reply #43 on: October 27, 2012, 10:53:59 AM »
In the end it will be the American people that get to make the decision on who will be President. The debt that the US is accumulating is a global issue. When the financial house of cards comes tumbling down it will not just be the United States that will suffer. I will guarantee that.

I don't think that Obama has a clue about cutting the US deficit or turning around the economy. Romney at least has a chance of doing the right thing. That is why I voted for Him.

For those worried about war mongering I think you are wasting your breath. The U.S will be out of major conflicts for 20-30 years after the recent experiences of Iraq and Afghanistan.  The next time there needs to be a military intervention I think the U.S. will set it out and let Europe take the lead.
So what about Iran?
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Re: Who will be the next US President
« Reply #44 on: October 27, 2012, 11:01:39 AM »
Is this some sort of quiz?
Do we have to guess which former president of the United States this is.
I will start with BUSH.

 

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