Abu Hamza to be extradited to US

[TBWG]

Abu Hamza to be extradited to US

   
Five suspected terrorists including Abu Hamza al-Masri can be extradited to the US, ending a long legal battle, UK High Court judges have ruled.

The radical cleric, Babar Ahmad, Syed Talha Ahsan, Adel Abdul Bary and Khaled al-Fawwaz failed to show "new and compelling" reasons not to send them.

Their appeal came after the European Court of Human Rights backed successive UK courts in ruling for extradition.

The Home Office has said it wants to deport them "as quickly as possible".

Judges Sir John Thomas and Mr Justice Ousley said in their ruling there was an "overwhelming public interest in the functioning of the extradition system" and that there was "no appeal from our decision".

   Of Abu Hamza, whose lawyers argued he may not be fit to face trial on medical grounds, they said: "The sooner he is put on trial the better"



Oh Dear, what a shame, never mind!

TBWG

[Daft Ada]

Tell him to sling his hook! 

[TBWG]

Five terror suspects including Abu Hamza al-Masri have left jail to begin extradition to the US after losing the last appeal in a long legal battle.

The High Court ruled Hamza, Babar Ahmad, Syed Talha Ahsan, Adel Abdul Bary and Khaled al-Fawwaz did not show "new and compelling" reasons to stay.

The men left Long Lartin prison in Worcestershire in a police convoy.

Officers from the Metropolitan Police's extradition unit will hand them over US marshals at RAF Mildenhall in Suffolk.

The BBC understands a US Department of Justice-owned civilian Gulfstream jet has been on the tarmac at the base since Tuesday, having flown in from Washington that day.

A second civilian plane, a Dassault Falcon 900, flew into the airbase in the early hours of this morning from Westchester County in New York state, but close to the border with Connecticut, where Babar Ahmad and Syed Talha Ahsan are expected to be tried.

Three police 4x4s, two armoured vans and a blacked-out police people carrier left the jail at 19:15 BST.

A Home Office spokesman welcomed the decision and said it was "working to extradite these men as quickly as possible".

[nookiebear]

Good Riddance to the piles of shite

[Italiantony]

B.B.C. NEWS

Five terror suspects, including the radical cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri, have flown out of the UK on a jet bound for the United States.

Officers from Scotland Yard's extradition unit handed the men to US marshals at RAF Mildenhall in Suffolk.

A police convoy brought the suspects from Long Lartin prison in Worcestershire to Suffolk at 19:15 BST.

High Court judges earlier dismissed the men's final appeal against extradition to the US to face terror charges.

They said the five men, Abu Hamza, Babar Ahmad, Syed Talha Ahsan, Adel Abdul Bary and Khaled al-Fawwaz, did not show "new and compelling" reasons to stay in the UK.

In a statement, Home Secretary Theresa May said she was pleased that the court decision meant "these men, who used every available opportunity to frustrate and delay the extradition process over many years, could finally be removed".

She said: "This government has co-operated fully with the courts and pressed at every stage to ensure this happened.

"It is right that these men, who are all accused of very serious offences, will finally face justice."

Abu Hamza faces 11 charges in the US relating to hostage taking, conspiracy to establish a militant training camp and calling for holy war in Afghanistan.

Once he lands he is set to appear in front of a judge within 24 hours in an open hearing.

Abu Hamza will be in court, however a lawyer who handles these kinds of cases told the BBC that the radical cleric is unlikely to say anything.
'No appeal'

He is expected to be held at the Metropolitan Correction Centre in New York in an area reserved for high-profile prisoners.

A pre-trial hearing is likely to take place within about three weeks. The actual trial, which should take place in a public courtroom, could take between one and three years.

A US District Court hearing has been scheduled for Mr Ahmad and Mr Ahsan in Connecticut later, according to officials.

The two men, who are aboard one of the planes, are reportedly heading to the state where an internet service provider was allegedly used to host one of the websites.
Abu Hamza The trial of terror suspect Abu Hamza could take up to three years

The BBC understands a US Department of Justice-owned Gulfstream jet had been on the tarmac at the base since Tuesday, having flown in from Washington.

A second civilian plane, a Dassault Falcon 900, flew into the airbase in the early hours of Friday morning from Westchester County in New York state.

The High Court ruling on Friday afternoon brought to an end a long-running legal battle. The men's extradition requests were submitted between 1998 and 2006, between eight and 14 years ago.

The suspects final appeal came after the European Court of Human Rights agreed with successive UK courts, that they should face extradition.

Judges Sir John Thomas and Mr Justice Ousley said in their ruling that there was an "overwhelming public interest in the functioning of the extradition system" and that there was "no appeal from our decision".

Sir John added that there was little doubt each man had, over the years, "either taken or had the opportunity to take every conceivable point to prevent his extradition to the United States".

Their written ruling, read out in court, concluded that "each of the claimants' applications for permission to apply for judicial review or for a reopening of the statutory appeals be dismissed"


My opinion is if they are guilty they deserve to be punished ,but if they are innocent they deserve FREEDOM.
Point is will they receive any justice in America,i think everyone as already labelled them guilty.

[John the Traveller]

In the Quran it is written that ,"Life is hard", so now the prophet is giving his followers advice that they will see is true.
It is sad they did not read the part in the Quran that says "Jesus was a lesser prophet and his followers are people of the book". All good Muslims are required to protect followers of the book.
Now these scum will finally see the error of their ways. They do not enjoy their prophets support.
Nor ours.

JT 

[Italiantony]

In the Quran it is written that ,"Life is hard", so now the prophet is giving his followers advice that they will see is true.
It is sad they did not read the part in the Quran that says "Jesus was a lesser prophet and his followers are people of the book". All good Muslims are required to protect followers of the book.
Now these scum will finally see the error of their ways. They do not enjoy their prophets support.
Nor ours.

JT 

Why call them scum when they haven't been found guilty of anything.
Most of them have spent more than 5 years in British prisons without charge.

From Wikipedia.
Babar Ahmad was first arrested at his Tooting home on 2 December 2003 by UK anti-terrorist police of 1 Unit 1 Area Territorial Support Group based at the high security Paddington Green Police Station. By the time he arrived in the custody suite of the police station, he had sustained at least 73 injuries, all later documented by both police and independent doctors, as well as in photographic and video evidence.
On 18 March 2009, Babar Ahmad was awarded £60,000 compensation at the High Court in London after the Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson admitted that he had been the victim of a "serious, gratuitous and prolonged attack".
Now you tell me who are the scum?

[Nobby]

Why call them scum when they haven't been found guilty of anything.
Most of them have spent more than 5 years in British prisons without charge.

From Wikipedia.
Babar Ahmad was first arrested at his Tooting home on 2 December 2003 by UK anti-terrorist police of 1 Unit 1 Area Territorial Support Group based at the high security Paddington Green Police Station. By the time he arrived in the custody suite of the police station, he had sustained at least 73 injuries, all later documented by both police and independent doctors, as well as in photographic and video evidence.
On 18 March 2009, Babar Ahmad was awarded £60,000 compensation at the High Court in London after the Metropolitan Police Commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson admitted that he had been the victim of a "serious, gratuitous and prolonged attack".
Now you tell me who are the scum?

Tony
Error are made and people should get a fair trail, I agree with you but what has Babar Ahmads misfortune got to do with the radical preacher in question other than they may believe the same fairy stories??

England has been far to soft on him as he has been en sighting voilence for decades irespective of his race,colour or creed.

[Jamaw]

He was kept in prison because he was deemed a threat to security. He openly incited threats against people and the state.

As ex-pats in Thailand what syphathy would you expect if you made such comments against Thailand and the head of state?

It has nothing to do with race or religion, anyone who is a threat to a peaceful society should be locked up.

He has abused the legal system in that his Muslim lawyers, paid by the state legal aid, have made millions out of this and some of that money has been donated to illegal organizations.

[Italiantony]

Tony
Error are made and people should get a fair trail, I agree with you but what has Babar Ahmads misfortune got to do with the radical preacher in question other than they may believe the same fairy stories??

England has been far to soft on him as he has been en sighting voilence for decades irespective of his race,colour or creed.

Interesting you use the word MISFORTUNE.

As for mentioning Babar Ahmads he is simply one of the 5 SUSPECTS that has been extradited.

Babar is the one i feel sorry for the most if convicted sorry when convicted he will be sent to Florance Colorado Super Max Prison.
He will spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement.
As for Abu Hamza he will spend little or no time whatsoever in a Super Max Prison because of his disabilities.

In August 2004 Babar was re-arrested in London and taken to prison pursuant to an extradition request from the US under the controversial, NO-EVIDENCE-REQUIRED, Extradition Act 2003. The US has ALLEGED that in the 1990s Babar was a supporter of “terrorism”. Babar denies any involvement in terrorism. He has now been in prison for over 8 years even though he has not been charged in the UK.

[Jamaw]

Tony, if you feel sorry for people like that, with their ideology, their motives and their intent then why not move to the South?

Personally I would have preferred that they were set free and then let nature take its course, let the people deal with them.

[Italiantony]

He was kept in prison because he was deemed a threat to security. He openly incited threats against people and the state.

As ex-pats in Thailand what syphathy would you expect if you made such comments against Thailand and the head of state?

It has nothing to do with race or religion, anyone who is a threat to a peaceful society should be locked up.

He has abused the legal system in that his Muslim lawyers, paid by the state legal aid, have made millions out of this and some of that money has been donated to illegal organizations.

He has abused the legal system in that his Muslim lawyers, paid by the state legal aid, have made millions out of this and some of that money has been donated to illegal organizations.
May i ask where this information came from,or is this simply speculation.
Anyone who is a threat to a peaceful society should be locked up.
Are you suggesting to lock the American and British governments up,because they are most certainly a threat to peaceful society.

[Italiantony]

Tony, if you feel sorry for people like that, with their ideology, their motives and their intent then why not move to the South?

Personally I would have preferred that they were set free and then let nature take its course, let the people deal with them.

Their motives  are clear they all say they are innocent.
Until proven guilty which i assume they will be,but until then they all remain innocent.

[Jamaw]

Tony, we are dealing with terrorism not traffic of fences.

[Italiantony]

Tony, we are dealing with terrorism not traffic of fences.

So lets make sure that people RESPONSIBLE are ARRESTED CHARGED and CONVICTED but only the people RESPONSIBLE.