Thais and Painting

[ted]

I'm not talking of the Van Gogh or Picasso variety.
I refer to the everyday structural painting that [in theory] improves and beatifies.

What is it with these folks? Less, the everyday slackers [like you and me] have little common knowledge in which to perform a simple task like slapping on a little paint on a structure without heed to the mess that comes by them naturally. Nothing to catch the drops, spray, etc - no conscious as to clean up such spills as they occur - and seemingly everything around but the object at hand....

I certainly could excuse the average person [not really], but the same lack of quality attributes apply to so-called painting professionals. They don't seem to see the errors in their practice....

When in doubt, paint it yourself.

Must be in the water.

[Vombatus]

I refer to the everyday structural painting that [in theory] improves and beatifies.

Are these papal painters or is it just Catholic gloss ?

[Jetmickey]

The Thai guy I had painting my house was spot on ,no drips,his cutting in was like a F1 racing driver and he put down dust-sheets( That I supplied ).The only problem was he was colour blind and kept paint the walls and rooms the wrong colour 

[ted]

The Thai guy I had painting my house was spot on ,no drips,his cutting in was like a F1 racing driver and he put down dust-sheets( That I supplied ).

Would this gentlemen be available for tutelage?

[Jetmickey]

The Thai guy I had painting my house was spot on ,no drips,his cutting in was like a F1 racing driver and he put down dust-sheets( That I supplied ).

Would this gentlemen be available for tutelage?

On single coloured projects,its a possibility 

[Starman]

The two guys that painted my house were spot on too. 2 and a half days to do a job I thought would take about 5. Great job, no mess, cutting in around windows and doors perfect. All for 3000baht between them. I supplied the paint they brought their own brushes and rollers.

[ted]

The two guys that painted my house were spot on too. 2 and a half days to do a job I thought would take about 5. Great job, no mess, cutting in around windows and doors perfect. All for 3000baht between them. I supplied the paint they brought their own brushes and rollers.

Ahh! There is hope, yet!

[Prakhonchai Nick]

The two guys that painted my house were spot on too. 2 and a half days to do a job I thought would take about 5. Great job, no mess, cutting in around windows and doors perfect. All for 3000baht between them. I supplied the paint they brought their own brushes and rollers.

That works out at 600bt/day per man. Double or more the going village rate!

[ted]

The two guys that painted my house were spot on too. 2 and a half days to do a job I thought would take about 5. Great job, no mess, cutting in around windows and doors perfect. All for 3000baht between them. I supplied the paint they brought their own brushes and rollers.

That works out at 600bt/day per man. Double or more the going village rate!

That's quite a fair daily wage, dontcha think?

[mario299]

I think you should pay quality to receive quality. Is 600 baht a day too much for very good work? I don't think so, I gladly pay more than the "average daily village wage" for better than the average quality work. It's not like you're paying this wage amount every day, seven days a week, but rather you are paying for a few days good labor for a job well done. Just me, but why not?  $20/day?  my, my, my!

[ted]

What is the average village daily wage?

Might vary from locale to employer.

Average.

[Prakhonchai Nick]

I think you should pay quality to receive quality. Is 600 baht a day too much for very good work? I don't think so, I gladly pay more than the "average daily village wage" for better than the average quality work. It's not like you're paying this wage amount every day, seven days a week, but rather you are paying for a few days good labor for a job well done. Just me, but why not?  $20/day?  my, my, my!

But do you know in advance that you will get better than average quality work?

My experience of employing locals is that they are jack of all trades but experts in none.

A so called "professional painter", I employed for 1 day, who was employed to paint new houses being built on a Bangkok estate, not only had no brushes or rollers, but refused to use the roller tray I provided (never seen one before) preferring to dip the roller straight into the paint bucket. Needless to say there was paint everywhere.

[Prakhonchai Nick]

What is the average village daily wage?

Might vary from locale to employer.

Average.

In my locale I would suggest 200/250bt for unskilled work and 250/300bt for skilled. Higher rates apply in Bangkok.

[Nobby]

I think you should pay quality to receive quality. Is 600 baht a day too much for very good work? I don't think so, I gladly pay more than the "average daily village wage" for better than the average quality work. It's not like you're paying this wage amount every day, seven days a week, but rather you are paying for a few days good labor for a job well done. Just me, but why not?  $20/day?  my, my, my!

But do you know in advance that you will get better than average quality work?

My experience of employing locals is that they are jack of all trades but experts in none.

A so called "professional painter", I employed for 1 day, who was employed to paint new houses being built on a Bangkok estate, not only had no brushes or rollers, but refused to use the roller tray I provided (never seen one before) preferring to dip the roller straight into the paint bucket. Needless to say there was paint everywhere.

Many will not work for a farang as they know of our high expectations and lack of speaking Thai. Probably best to keep the daily rate to a reasonable level and give a tip at the end of the job if its worthy of it.

[Prakhonchai Nick]

On the contrary Nobby.

In my experience they are

I think you should pay quality to receive quality. Is 600 baht a day too much for very good work? I don't think so, I gladly pay more than the "average daily village wage" for better than the average quality work. It's not like you're paying this wage amount every day, seven days a week, but rather you are paying for a few days good labor for a job well done. Just me, but why not?  $20/day?  my, my, my!

But do you know in advance that you will get better than average quality work?

My experience of employing locals is that they are jack of all trades but experts in none.

A so called "professional painter", I employed for 1 day, who was employed to paint new houses being built on a Bangkok estate, not only had no brushes or rollers, but refused to use the roller tray I provided (never seen one before) preferring to dip the roller straight into the paint bucket. Needless to say there was paint everywhere.

Many will not work for a farang as they know of our high expectations and lack of speaking Thai. Probably best to keep the daily rate to a reasonable level and give a tip at the end of the job if its worthy of it.

On the contrary Nobby

Most are more than happy to work for a farang in the knowledge that they will receive immediate payment when finished, rather than being told to wait till the end of the month as usually happens when working for Thais.!