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Offline TBWG

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Banks currency rip off!
« on: September 21, 2011, 04:48:41 PM »

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Complex charges and misleading information means UK holidaymakers are paying too much for foreign currency, a watchdog has said. buttslap

Consumer Focus said it was unclear how much of the estimated £1bn a year charged in currency exchange fees was warranted. moneysmile

It has submitted a super-complaint to the Office of Fair Trading (OFT).

But the banking industry said it was disappointed that Consumer Focus took such a step before talking to banks.

The watchdog's complaint claimed that converting £500 into euros could cost between £10 and £30, even though the service provided was essentially the same.

It has also raised questions about charges when using credit or debit cards overseas.

The areas of concern it has raised include:

    Complex card charges that prevent holidaymakers shopping around for a better deal
    Charges for buying currency in the UK with a card failing to reflect the costs of processing the payment
    Hidden mark-ups that make marketing phrases such as "0% commission" misleading

With an estimated £10bn taken in cash by UK holidaymakers travelling overseas every year, the watchdog wants the OFT to ensure consumers are being treated fairly.

A designated consumer group can make a super-complaint to the Office of Fair Trading (OFT) if an issue is "significantly harming the interests of consumers".

The OFT has 90 days to respond by stating what action, if any, it plans to take on the issue and the reasons behind its decision.

"Individuals buy holiday money infrequently and so may not shop around much or may just stick with the same supplier," said Mike O'Connor, chief executive of Consumer Focus.

"A cocktail of confusing charges and poor transparency means collectively we are losing out in a big way."

The watchdog is calling for a simplification of charging structures for using cards overseas, cash withdrawal fees for UK transactions to reflect the costs of processing, and clearer explanations of exchange rates after all fees are added.

The widest variation in charges come with debit card charges, according to Andrew Hagger, of consumer website Moneynet.

But the banks said they were disappointed that the watchdog failed to engage with the industry before submitting the complaint, which they would now scrutinise.

"Competition in the holiday money market is not simply between High Street banks; it also involves companies which do not usually provide financial services," said a spokesman for the British Bankers' Association, which represents the major banks.

"The report acknowledges only 15% of holidaymakers get their foreign currency from a bank.

"Any analysis of this market needs to take full account of the costs to businesses of providing these services - for instance, the cost charged by foreign ATM providers every time a UK card is used.

"Transaction costs abroad are driven by the costs of overseas payment systems, often in countries where free banking does not exist."

Melanie Johnson, who chairs the UK Cards Association, said: "The Consumer Focus super-complaint, covers a broad spectrum of issues - not all related to cards by any means. We will now be going through their report in some detail to check the facts.

"Customers increasingly choose to use their cards abroad because they are convenient, secure and flexible and offer greater protection than other types of payment. Despite the fact that providing this service comes at a cost they are often the most competitive option."

The OFT has 90 days to respond to the super-complaint by stating what action, if any, it plans to take on the issue and the reasons behind its decision.


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Re: Banks currency rip off!
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2011, 12:54:01 PM »
Yep banks will rip you at every turn.. It appears UK banks are as crook as Australian banks. Here in Australia they will charge a fee of $30 for an international telegraphic tranfer and if thats not bad enough they will rip you off further if they change to the foreign currency here, thats where they make the real money from naive punters.
I have just arrived home from the bank where i tranfered $2000 aud to Thailand. If I had allowed the Aust bank to convert the currency I would have received 28 baht to the dollar. However sending it in dollars to Thailand I received 30.4 to the dollar in Thailand.  Thats a difference of 4800 baht. Friggin banks....Sorry for the ramble..just letting off some steam

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« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2011, 04:03:50 PM »
There was (and is) a large antitrust suit brought against the BIG banks in the USA, a few years back.  It had to do with the banks overcharging (in collusion) for overseas credit/debit card fees, for a certain period of time.  I think around 9 or 10 months, during the year 2006.

As it was/is a "class action" law suit, all party's who were overcharged were contacted and enlisted as a claimant.  This goes back to 2006, and I received an information and registration packet, from the group. I signed on as a claimant, and found by checking through my bank statements for that period, that I had quite a large amount of foreign transactions to "claim".  (If memory serves me...just in excess of $100,000 USD)

The settlement (that has been reached), stipulates that claimants should receive back, from 1% to 3% of their total expenditure. 

Here we are, 5 years later and still waiting. 555   brick1

The "wheels of justice" do indeed turn slowly!

Now the case has been settled, and the waiting is on for the "Judge" to sign an "authorization of disbursement".  (All the attorney's will become very wealthy, of course)

http://www.ccfsettlement.com/

It seems that even the "legally" charged banking fees are outrageous, though!









   

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