Gun Culture in USA

[urleft]

Yup, and to help matters the US GVT is trying to force states to give Drivers' Licenses to Illegals.   

And there are many more injuries than deaths:


According to the National Highway Traffic Administration, car accidents happen every minute of the day. Motor vehicle accidents occur in any part of the world every 60 seconds. And if it’s all summed up in a yearly basis,there are 5.25 million driving accidents that take place per year. Statistics show that each year,43,000 or more of the United States’ population die due to vehicular accidents and around 2.9 million people end up suffering light or severe injuries. In a certain five year period, there had been recorded a 25% of the driving population who encountered or were involved in car accidents. It is also affirmed that car accidents kill a child every 3 minutes.Statistics on the number of car accidents taking place in every state or country is normally based on medical or insurance records filed.

http://www.usacoverage.com/auto-insurance/how-many-driving-accidents-occur-each-year.html

 
But the Gun Deaths are weighted more than vehicle deaths. 

[Paddyram]

They proper way to do Gun Control in the US is to change the constitution, not incremental gun laws that conflict with the constitution. 

However, the Gun Control advocates will not be honest about what they intend and advance changes to the 2nd Admendment. 

That sounds like a good idea to me Urleft, have a national referendum and let all of america have their say.  Then the losers shuts up and bears it.  But some states would not abide by the result.... so maybe state-wide referenda and much tougher penalties for bringing guns across state lines.

Would that not keep everyone happy, and if your state doesn't hold your views ... move.

[urleft]

They proper way to do Gun Control in the US is to change the constitution, not incremental gun laws that conflict with the constitution. 

However, the Gun Control advocates will not be honest about what they intend and advance changes to the 2nd Admendment. 

That sounds like a good idea to me Urleft, have a national referendum and let all of america have their say.  Then the losers shuts up and bears it.  But some states would not abide by the result.... so maybe state-wide referenda and much tougher penalties for bringing guns across state lines.

Would that not keep everyone happy, and if your state doesn't hold your views ... move.

Works for me.  However, the national referendum is putting forth a change to constitution per the amendment process. 

[Paddyram]

Yep, thats what I meant an Amendment.  I am not familiar with American constitutional law but when an amendment to the constitution is proposed, does the amendment not get voted on by the people ? or how else is it ratified ?

Here is Ireland any proposed change to the Constitution requires a national referendum.

[urleft]

An amendment must be proposed and pass both house of Congress by a 2/3rd's vote.


3/4's of the States (33 of them) must ratify that Amendment within 7 years.   


If you are in a state that does not ratify the amendment but 3/4ths of the states do, TFB, you have to live with it. 

[Speros]

Basically a referendum, similar to changing the constitution in Aust.

[urleft]

Wow, do we have agreement here? 

Use the defined process to change the 2nd Amendment to end the US Gun Culture?   

I totally support that effort, that is how it should be done!!!!!! 

And I will live with the result. 

[urleft]

Well at last The 'neighbourhood watch' guy has been charged with 2nd degree murder....WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG.........We all know dont we!!
After just reading the previous threads .........
Urleft ,I seriously think you have a serious problem.........Maybe 'a couple of bricks short of a load'!!

I have been hammering Nookie for over a year now to explain his quote:

WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG.........We all know dont we!!

And Nookie has yet to explain.  Why a hispanic guy that is getting his head pounded into the cement shoots the drug crazed teen on top of him?  What do you all know? 

Why has Nookie been silent on explaining this?  Why does he say I need therapy for trying trying to understand that a guy protecting himself is in the wrong?   
 
This is not about the gun culture, it is about the right to defend yourself.
 
Looks like Nookie is the one that needs therapy to understand that everyone has the right to defend themselves. 
 


 

[nookiebear]

Well at last The 'neighbourhood watch' guy has been charged with 2nd degree murder....WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG.........We all know dont we!!
After just reading the previous threads .........
Urleft ,I seriously think you have a serious problem.........Maybe 'a couple of bricks short of a load'!!

I have been hammering Nookie for over a year now to explain his quote:

WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG.........We all know dont we!!

And Nookie has yet to explain.  Why a hispanic guy that is getting his head pounded into the cement shoots the drug crazed teen on top of him?  What do you all know? 

Why has Nookie been silent on explaining this?  Why does he say I need therapy for trying trying to understand that a guy protecting himself is in the wrong?   
 
This is not about the gun culture, it is about the right to defend yourself.
 
Looks like Nookie is the one that needs therapy to understand that everyone has the right to defend themselves. 
 


 

You must be the one of the dumbest Yanks I've ever come across!

[urleft]

Well at last The 'neighbourhood watch' guy has been charged with 2nd degree murder....WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG.........We all know dont we!!
After just reading the previous threads .........
Urleft ,I seriously think you have a serious problem.........Maybe 'a couple of bricks short of a load'!!

I have been hammering Nookie for over a year now to explain his quote:

WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG.........We all know dont we!!

And Nookie has yet to explain.  Why a hispanic guy that is getting his head pounded into the cement shoots the drug crazed teen on top of him?  What do you all know? 

Why has Nookie been silent on explaining this?  Why does he say I need therapy for trying trying to understand that a guy protecting himself is in the wrong?   
 
This is not about the gun culture, it is about the right to defend yourself.
 
Looks like Nookie is the one that needs therapy to understand that everyone has the right to defend themselves. 
 


 

You must be the one of the dumbest Yanks I've ever come across!

Must be, but as yet you not anyone else has explained what you all know. 

You give out secret decoder rings to those that understand?  You should get a colonoscopy to see if the doctor can find your head. 

[Speros]

  ....
Funny as F@ck

[rufusredtail]

Death Statistics |  Top 5 Most |  Motor Vehicles |  Traffic Accident Statistics

The Top 5 Countries with the Most Road Traffic Deaths


 

Country

Reported Number of Traffic Deaths

Estimated Traffic Death Rate

Number of Registered Vehicles



1
India 105,725  16.8  72,718,000

2
China 96,611  16.5  145,228,994

3
United States 42,642  13.9  251,422,509

4
Russia 35,972  25.2  38,695,996

5
Brazil 35,155  18.3  49,644,025

[rufusredtail]

 
 
 
Guns and cars have long been among the leading causes of non-medical deaths in the U.S. By 2015, firearm fatalities will probably exceed traffic fatalities for the first time, based on data compiled by Bloomberg.

Enlarge image American Shooting Deaths to Surpass Traffic Fatalities by 2015 
American Shooting Deaths to Surpass Traffic Fatalities by 2015 American Shooting Deaths to Surpass Traffic Fatalities by 2015  John Moore/Getty Images
A casket carrying the body of shooting victim Jessica Rekos, 6, is brought out after her funeral at the St. Rose of Lima Catholic church in Newtown, Connecticut, on Dec. 18, 2012.

A casket carrying the body of shooting victim Jessica Rekos, 6, is brought out after her funeral at the St. Rose of Lima Catholic church in Newtown, Connecticut, on Dec. 18, 2012. Photographer: John Moore/Getty Images
Gunmaker's Owner Has Ties to Newtown  0:32 Dec. 18 (Bloomberg) -- The father of Stephen Feinberg, founder of Cerberus, the private-equity firm that owns gunmaker Freedom Group Inc., lives in the town where a Freedom Group-made rifle was used to kill 26 people in an elementary school. Martin Feinberg is a resident of Liberty at Newtown, a community for people 55 and older that’s about 6 miles from Sandy Hook elementary school. Cerberus today announced it will sell Freedom Group. (Source: Bloomberg)
White House's Carney on Gun Violence, Budget Talks 28:21 Dec. 17 (Bloomberg) -- White House spokesman Jay Carney speaks about the elementary school shooting in Connecticut and gun control. Carney, speaking at a news conference in Washington, also discusses fiscal negotiations between lawmakers. (This report is an excerpt. Source: Bloomberg)
Gun Demand Surges After Newtown School Shooting 4:54 Dec. 19 (Bloomberg) -- Dominic Chu reports on the surging demand for guns. He speaks on Bloomberg Television's "Street Smart." (Source: Bloomberg)
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While motor-vehicle deaths dropped 22 percent from 2005 to 2010, gun fatalities are rising again after a low point in 2000, according to the Atlanta-based Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Shooting deaths in 2015 will probably rise to almost 33,000, and those related to autos will decline to about 32,000, based on the 10-year average trend.

As the nation reels from the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School, the shift shows the effects of public policy, said Garen Wintemute, director of the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California, Davis.

The fall in traffic deaths resulted from safer vehicles, restricted privileges for young drivers and seat-belt and other laws, he said. By contrast, “we’ve made policy decisions that have had the impact of making the widest array of firearms available to the widest array of people under the widest array of conditions.” While fewer households have guns, people who own guns are buying more of them, he said.

The Dec. 14 slaying of 20 children and six adults at the school in Newtown, Connecticut, reignited a debate over gun violence. While mass murders are rare, shootings aren’t. About 85 Americans are shot dead daily -- 53 of them suicides. Every day, one of those killed by firearms is 14 or younger.

‘Game Changer’
Of the total, the CDC data show, 16 are between the ages of 15 and 24, mostly homicide victims. Wintemute said more than 200 people go to U.S. emergency rooms every day with gunshot wounds.

Gun deaths by homicide, suicide or accident peaked at 37,666 in 1993 before declining to a low of 28,393 in 2000, the data show. Since then the total has risen to 31,328 in 2010, an increase of 2,935, or eight more victims a day.

At the same time, violent crime and murder rates have fallen in the U.S., said Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins University Center for Gun Policy and Research in Baltimore. Homicides may be up this year, though the murder rate from 2006 to 2011 fell 19 percent, to 4.7 for every 100,000 people, Webster said in an e-mail.

While recent gun sales haven’t led to an increase in crime, research indicates that over time, higher levels of gun ownership are associated with increased rates of homicide and suicide, Webster said. The Sandy Hook killings are a “potential game changer” for gun-control laws and the response to it unlike any incident he’s seen in 20 years of studying gun violence, he said.

Police Crackdowns
“We haven’t had a year like 2012 for mass shootings before, with each one being more disturbing than the last,” Webster said. “It’s harder to chalk this up to random acts than to flaws in our gun laws.”

The drop in gun deaths since 1993 may be a result of less violence from drug trafficking, more people incarcerated and more police crackdowns on illegal firearms, according to both Webster and Wintemute.

The percentage of gun-owning households has fallen since 2004 to 32 percent in 2010, according to the General Social Survey by NORC at the University of Chicago. The survey indicates at least 1.8 firearms per household, or at least 70 million in households nationwide, said Tom Smith, the survey’s principal investigator.

Safer Driving
It’s impossible to verify how many guns are owned legally or illegally, Webster said. A survey eight years ago pegged the number of firearms around 300 million, he said.

Traffic fatalities in 2011 were the lowest since 1949, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Although drivers in the U.S. logged fewer miles than in 2010, the fatality rate was the lowest on record, 1.1 deaths for each 100 million vehicle miles driven.

There were 53,524 motor-vehicle deaths in 1979, compared with a projected 33,975 this year, according to the data compiled by Bloomberg.

“In the past several decades, we’ve seen remarkable improvements in both the way motorists behave on our roadways and in the safety of the vehicles they drive,” according to a Dec. 10 statement by the agency.

[urleft]

I tried to have a battle of wits with Nookie, but had to back off because:

I hate to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person. 

[Speros]

I tried to have a battle of wits with Nookie, but had to back off because:

I hate to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.

Keith your a better man than that give a better argument, when was the last time you picked up the kids from school, or went shopping with a bushmaster semi auto carrying the load. Bringing in vehicles into the argument about guns is weak indead.... I do expect better.