Non Immigrant O Extension Based on Marriage

[gotlost]

Thanks for the information - not as easy as I initially thought.

Correct me if I'm wrong -looks like I'll have to travel and make an appointment at the Embassy in Bangkok and get our wedding certificate notarised. Then get it translated and verified by the MFA  in Bangkok. Will I have to make an appointment with the MFA or just show-up on the day?
Travel back to Surin and get the KR22 form using the translated, notarised wedding certificate.

My suggestion is go to BK and spend a night or two. Let the translation service due the leg work as for the MFA. Should be able to pick it up from the translator the next day. Check with your embassy to see if you need to make an appointment for their service. The USA Embassy does require an on line appointed. Oh.. Make sure that before you turn your MFA stamped copies to the amphur MAKE COPIES for your file.

[gotlost]

For info. A marriage in Thailand the certificate is called a Kor Ror 3. You get 2 of these when you marry in Thailand AND they do not issue replacement so protect them. The yearly certificate for a marriage extension is called Kor Ror 2 if you are married in Thailand. This is what I get every year. The certificate for a forgen marriage is called Kor Ror 22 and is for a foreign marriage. In short we tend to call them KR3, KR2 and KR22. Don't be surprised if you ask for a KR that they blinks their eyes at you.

[Sofa_King]

Thanks for the information - not as easy as I initially thought.

Correct me if I'm wrong -looks like I'll have to travel and make an appointment at the Embassy in Bangkok and get our wedding certificate notarised. Then get it translated and verified by the MFA  in Bangkok. Will I have to make an appointment with the MFA or just show-up on the day?
Travel back to Surin and get the KR22 form using the translated, notarised wedding certificate.

If you're over 50 and you have an income of over 60k baht a month or you can  put 800k Baht in the Bank it could be easier to just get an Visa Extension based on Retirement,less paper work and less hassle
Remember for a Marriage Vise  Extension this is 40k and 400k and this must be done now so it meets the seasoning requirement 

[smoooth2]

Thanks for the information - not as easy as I initially thought.

Correct me if I'm wrong -looks like I'll have to travel and make an appointment at the Embassy in Bangkok and get our wedding certificate notarised. Then get it translated and verified by the MFA  in Bangkok. Will I have to make an appointment with the MFA or just show-up on the day?
Travel back to Surin and get the KR22 form using the translated, notarised wedding certificate.

My suggestion is go to BK and spend a night or two. Let the translation service due the leg work as for the MFA. Should be able to pick it up from the translator the next day. Check with your embassy to see if you need to make an appointment for their service. The USA Embassy does require an on line appointed. Oh.. Make sure that before you turn your MFA stamped copies to the amphur MAKE COPIES for your file.

Sounds like an identical process to getting Marriage Affirmation from Embassy, then going through the translation and MFA certification process in BKK ... then back to Amphur Buriram for finalisation. I did all this for marriage 7 months ago.

Difference being, Dylan has a UK Marriage Cert, not an overseas divorce cert, to get notarised by Embassy as Step 1. I don't know if UK Embassy requires appointment for this. (Oz Embassy didn't for divorce cert)

As Gotlost said, it will almost certainly take 2 days (maybe 3 if the translation is not accepted first time by MFA). Don't pre book a bus/airline ticket back to Buriram, as this will just put more stress on your timing, something that is 100% out of your control.

MFA is way out near Don Mueang Airport, a very long way from UK Embassy. There are numerous translation touts in the lobby of MFA. Ours did a good job 700 baht for 3 docs, and hung around with us during the waiting period. I suspect to make sure his translation was acceptable to MFA.

Don't know how a city based translation guy can do the whole application process for you, without you being present, as we had a private interview with little Boss, and signed many docs at MFA.

Anyway .... the BKK end of this ordeal was painfully tedious. The easy part was Buriram Amphur.

[urleft]

Thanks for the information - not as easy as I initially thought.

Correct me if I'm wrong -looks like I'll have to travel and make an appointment at the Embassy in Bangkok and get our wedding certificate notarised. Then get it translated and verified by the MFA  in Bangkok. Will I have to make an appointment with the MFA or just show-up on the day?
Travel back to Surin and get the KR22 form using the translated, notarised wedding certificate.

If you're over 50 and you have an income of over 60k baht a month or you can  put 800k Baht in the Bank it could be easier to just get an Visa Extension based on Retirement,less paper work and less hassle
Remember for a Marriage Vise  Extension this is 40k and 400k and this must be done now so it meets the seasoning requirement 

And the money in the bank has to be in your name only, not a joint account.  Know a guy that was breezing through the process this week and at the very end the agent noted the joint account, so he was denied the visa. 

[mudcat]

Not sure if the U.S. Embassy will authenticate a marriage certificate - maybe someone has an accepted procedure for getting a U.S. marriage certificate through the MFA.

Authentication of Vital Records, Academic, Commercial or Other Credentials Issued in the U.S.

U.S. Consular officers are not empowered to authenticate public documents issued in the United States. Such documents include vital records (birth, marriage, death, and divorce), as well as academic, commercial, or other credentials. Consular officers do not have access to the records of the issuing office or the seal of the custodian of these records.

For more information on Authentication of Documents, Apostilles, or Copies of Birth, Death, Marriage, or Divorce Records, please consult the Department of State Travel site


https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/local-resources-of-u-s-citizens/notaries-public/authentication-vital-records/

[gotlost]

Thanks for the information - not as easy as I initially thought.

Correct me if I'm wrong -looks like I'll have to travel and make an appointment at the Embassy in Bangkok and get our wedding certificate notarised. Then get it translated and verified by the MFA  in Bangkok. Will I have to make an appointment with the MFA or just show-up on the day?
Travel back to Surin and get the KR22 form using the translated, notarised wedding certificate.

If you're over 50 and you have an income of over 60k baht a month or you can  put 800k Baht in the Bank it could be easier to just get an Visa Extension based on Retirement,less paper work and less hassle
Remember for a Marriage Vise  Extension this is 40k and 400k and this must be done now so it meets the seasoning requirement 

Seasoning for a marriage extension is only two months every time if your doing this on money in the bank. As another poster stated if your doing this by the bank method that account has to be and must be in your name only. BUT you can sign papers in your bank that gives your wife direct control of the account if you kick the bucket.

[gotlost]

Not sure if the U.S. Embassy will authenticate a marriage certificate - maybe someone has an accepted procedure for getting a U.S. marriage certificate through the MFA.

Authentication of Vital Records, Academic, Commercial or Other Credentials Issued in the U.S.

U.S. Consular officers are not empowered to authenticate public documents issued in the United States. Such documents include vital records (birth, marriage, death, and divorce), as well as academic, commercial, or other credentials. Consular officers do not have access to the records of the issuing office or the seal of the custodian of these records.

For more information on Authentication of Documents, Apostilles, or Copies of Birth, Death, Marriage, or Divorce Records, please consult the Department of State Travel site


https://th.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/local-resources-of-u-s-citizens/notaries-public/authentication-vital-records/

Same for the US as has been stated on this tread.. They are NOT authenticating the document they are taking an oath from you that the document is True. There are American members on this forum that have had to do this. ALL foreign marriages certificates have to go this route to be recognized by the MFA.

[Dylan.t]

If I marry my wife again here in Thailand, will this save me the hassle of having our UK certificate verified and translated?

[Starman]

If you marry here you still need documents from your embassy and they need to be notarised by the MFA.

[gotlost]

If I marry my wife again here in Thailand, will this save me the hassle of having our UK certificate verified and translated?

Interesting question. Some may say your committing bigamy as your all ready married and legally you can not do this. Also if you were to get married in Thailand you still need to go to your embassy in Bangkok and obtain an "affirmation to marry affidavit" from them in which they do ask you of your martial status: single, widower or divorced. Anything you mark could legally land you in hot water. If you were not married and doing this for the first time YES INHO by marrying overseas makes you do additional work in Thailand. But is your doing this in Thailand and you were divorced in a previous  life you legally need your original divorce decree. Embassy's  have been know to insist on them because this a law by the MFA and amphurs are known to ask for it. I could go into more on this but won't. Go to Bangkok and do what has been laid out on this thread and you will be ok.

[CO-CO]

Thanks for the information - not as easy as I initially thought.

Correct me if I'm wrong -looks like I'll have to travel and make an appointment at the Embassy in Bangkok and get our wedding certificate notarised. Then get it translated and verified by the MFA  in Bangkok. Will I have to make an appointment with the MFA or just show-up on the day?
Travel back to Surin and get the KR22 form using the translated, notarised wedding certificate.

If you're over 50 and you have an income of over 60k baht a month or you can  put 800k Baht in the Bank it could be easier to just get an Visa Extension based on Retirement,less paper work and less hassle
Remember for a Marriage Vise  Extension this is 40k and 400k and this must be done now so it meets the seasoning requirement 

65k Baht a month for retirement extension.

[Sofa_King]

Thanks for the information - not as easy as I initially thought.

Correct me if I'm wrong -looks like I'll have to travel and make an appointment at the Embassy in Bangkok and get our wedding certificate notarised. Then get it translated and verified by the MFA  in Bangkok. Will I have to make an appointment with the MFA or just show-up on the day?
Travel back to Surin and get the KR22 form using the translated, notarised wedding certificate.

If you're over 50 and you have an income of over 60k baht a month or you can  put 800k Baht in the Bank it could be easier to just get an Visa Extension based on Retirement,less paper work and less hassle
Remember for a Marriage Vise  Extension this is 40k and 400k and this must be done now so it meets the seasoning requirement 

65k Baht a month for retirement extension.

I stand corrected ... as the man in the orthopaedic shoes would say 

Its even more now with the current  GBP exchange rate compared to a few weeks ago 

[Dylan.t]

I made an appointment with the UK embassy to have my British wedding certificate legalised. I travelled down from Surin and turned up for the appointment, only to be told that they no longer provide this service. Complete waste of time and money.
The service is now provided on-line - https://www.gov.uk/get-document-legalised where a £30 fee is paid, a form is download which is filled-in and posted with the certificate to the office in Milton Keynes. The certified certificate must then be sent by courier (fee £5.50) to the Thai Embassy in London. What happens next I'm no sure of, but it also needs to be stamped by the MFA in Bangkok. I've emailed the Thai Embassy to find out.

[gotlost]

I made an appointment with the UK embassy to have my British wedding certificate legalised. I travelled down from Surin and turned up for the appointment, only to be told that they no longer provide this service. Complete waste of time and money.
The service is now provided on-line - https://www.gov.uk/get-document-legalised where a £30 fee is paid, a form is download which is filled-in and posted with the certificate to the office in Milton Keynes. The certified certificate must then be sent by courier (fee £5.50) to the Thai Embassy in London. What happens next I'm no sure of, but it also needs to be stamped by the MFA in Bangkok. I've emailed the Thai Embassy to find out.

Keeps is updated on your findings. You may want to check with Surin Immigration but my gut feelings are it will still need to be stamped by MFA Bangkok.