Who is getting Vaccinated

[Thai Bart]

There seems to be a mixed view going around that getting vaccinated is either good or dangerous and depending on what you have either seen or read you have an opinion. I think this will clear it up once and for all.

[davureborn]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/shock-report-covid-19-vaccine-deaths-last-week-us-covid-19-deaths/
makes you think.

[CO-CO]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/shock-report-covid-19-vaccine-deaths-last-week-us-covid-19-deaths/
makes you think.

"The Gateway pundit"

Makes you think...............................

[Smithy]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/shock-report-covid-19-vaccine-deaths-last-week-us-covid-19-deaths/
makes you think.

"The Gateway pundit"

Makes you think...............................

I'm sure there have been some that have died due to adverse reactions to the jab but most that have died have been over 65 ( 82.96% ) Like those that have died of Covid maybe age and those with pre existing conditions may have something to do with it ?

[Gerry]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/shock-report-covid-19-vaccine-deaths-last-week-us-covid-19-deaths/
makes you think.

Doesn't make me think. Especially when you read the disclaimers.

Actually, it does make me think. Then it makes me laugh.

[ChuckNorris]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/07/shock-report-covid-19-vaccine-deaths-last-week-us-covid-19-deaths/
makes you think.

Doesn't make me think. Especially when you read the disclaimers.

Actually, it does make me think. Then it makes me laugh.

I had a good laugh at an anti vax post I saw on a Facebook group. This is pretty much the same group that said the vaccines are untested and that thousands and thousands of people will die after getting it. They also jumped on the bandwagon of microchipped vaccines.

Their new stance now is that vaccinated people are transmitting some kind of protein the infects non vaccinated people and makes them sick.

My guess would be that the unvaccinated are actually sick with Covid19, but there you go.

Wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the jokes section.

[Smithy]

Vaccines UK related

This guys is solid at reporting the truth and not an anti-vaxxer



And below fron The mail

[Smithy]

Lots more Info and Data coming out , things are changing all the time



Even those fully Vaccinated aren't going to stop peple getting Covid . Cant see borders or Holiday destination like Thailand opening up like before for some time yet !!!

[ChuckNorris]

Lots more Info and Data coming out , things are changing all the time



Even those fully Vaccinated aren't going to stop peple getting Covid . Cant see borders or Holiday destination like Thailand opening up like before for some time yet !!!

The clue is in the word "vaccinated. The meaning is very different to "immunised".

There has never been any mention that the vaccine stops the spread. It simply reduces the symptoms and the need for medical care. As can be seen in the present figures.

[Smithy]

Lots more Info and Data coming out , things are changing all the time



Even those fully Vaccinated aren't going to stop peple getting Covid . Cant see borders or Holiday destination like Thailand opening up like before for some time yet !!!

The clue is in the word "vaccinated. The meaning is very different to "immunised".

There has never been any mention that the vaccine stops the spread. It simply reduces the symptoms and the need for medical care. As can be seen in the present figures.

Did you watch/read what I posted on the other thread .. 




Below a link to " Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens "

https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1002198

[Smithy]

Dr David Bull: Vaccination or immunity?

[olavhome]

The ting about being vaccinated is that you normally only get mild symptoms.
That mean you dont need go doctor or hospital.
Which mean that doctors and nurses can take care of other that really need them.
(Or we have to increase amount of doctors, nurses and hospitals which results in higher taxes for us all)
Choise is easy :-)

[Smithy]

The ting about being vaccinated is that you normally only get mild symptoms.
That mean you dont need go doctor or hospital.
Which mean that doctors and nurses can take care of other that really need them.
(Or we have to increase amount of doctors, nurses and hospitals which results in higher taxes for us all)
Choise is easy :-)

Just my view on the way things are going

Cases continue to rise, Thailand ( and the rest of the world )  is fighting a war it can never win .Covid like Flu and the Common Cold is something we will have to learn to live with ,It will never be eradicated . There will be just one variant after another with some being weeker or stronger than the ones before
Vaccine's seem to stop or reduce the effects of Covid to the old and vulnerable so they ( if they want ) should be vaccinated
It's also been found there is no significant difference in the viral load present in the breakthrough infections occurring in fully vaccinated people and the other cases, suggesting the viral load of vaccinated and unvaccinated persons infected with the coronavirus is similar. Same as the people that get the flu vaccine every year and still acquire the flu virus and spread it. The whole point of the flu vaccine is so the person acquiring the virus has a better chance of fighting it off.
It is the exact same with the Covid-19 vaccine. ( see links below )
Even if Thailand Vaccinates all its population  , people  will still get Covid and those that have pre existing conditions from other illnesses ( like Cancer , phoneomina or the many other illnesses that can kill you  ) will die ...that's Life (or death ) and the way things are !!
LOCKDOWNS DONT WORK ..Lockdowns were initially brought in under the idea of ?two weeks to flatten the curve.? We are now 17 / 18 months into this pandemic and we are still treating Covid 19 as if it were March/April 2020. Lockdowns are illiberal and economically destructive, and the best available international evidence finds no link between lockdowns and stopping excess Covid deaths. Researchers have found that the best way to handle Covid 19 outbreaks is through increasing medical capacity to handle outbreaks while leaving the freedoms of people and economy alone.
I find it disappointing to see governments choose to lock down . Some governments ( Sweden , Singapore to name a few ) seemed committed to learning to live with Covid. But many governments are pro-lockdown , using hysteria and the complaints of the MSM to tell people that there is nowhere they can hide from the threat of Covid to create fear so they can bring in their totalitarian measures

Links

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7031e2.htm

https://www.jhsph.edu/covid-19/articles/new-data-on-covid-19-transmission-by-vaccinated-individuals.html

[olavhome]

But talking of sweden :
They have double the population of norway.
But 8 times as many dead as norway.
And should think the health of the population is much the same.
However they have more people "not etnic" then Norway.
But dont think thats all explanation for the numbers :-)

[Smithy]

But talking of sweden :
They have double the population of norway.
But 8 times as many dead as norway.
And should think the health of the population is much the same.
However they have more people "not etnic" then Norway.
But dont think thats all explanation for the numbers :-)

I'm sure your figures are right , but as you seem to be worried about higher taxes   How did Norway deal with lockdowns and business's closing down and maybe never reopening through bankruptcy. Did the Norwegian Government pay furloughed wages like the UK . Its nice to know how other countries coped and are coping