Covid19 in Thailand

[Smithy]

As a friend said, if there was no internet there would be no fear of the vaccine, adding that everyone just had the TB jab when they were young - they did not debate the arse off the pro's and con's.

Maybe your friend should read more.!!!

How about .....

The Cutter Incident, Polio Vaccine in the mid 50's

The Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis (DTP) Vaccine Controversy in the 70's

The Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR) Vaccine Controversy in the 90's

Most Vaccines take 10 -15 years to develope and have to go through vast testing schedules before they are released for public use , No one knows whats going to happen in years to come as the latest Covid Vaccines have been rolled out so fast , As I've said before  , I think I will take the 'wait and see ' apporach !!! . No conspiracy theories here's just facts 

[Gerry]

As a friend said, if there was no internet there would be no fear of the vaccine, adding that everyone just had the TB jab when they were young - they did not debate the arse off the pro's and con's.

Maybe your friend should read more.!!!

How about .....

The Cutter Incident, Polio Vaccine in the mid 50's

The Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis (DTP) Vaccine Controversy in the 70's

The Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR) Vaccine Controversy in the 90's

Most Vaccines take 10 -15 years to develope and have to go through vast testing schedules before they are released for public use , No one knows whats going to happen in years to come as the latest Covid Vaccines have been rolled out so fast , As I've said before  , I think I will take the 'wait and see ' apporach !!! . No conspiracy theories here's just facts 

Comparing vaccines of many years ago, with the advancement of technology, is laughable. Especially as many of the original findings have now been found to be false.

Also, I was in a local expat hangout the other day and the idea of many years of development for vaccines came up. There was an Italian guy there whose sister works for GSK in Verona. She has been involved in the developments and testing of vaccines for Covid19. Basically, from what I could understand he said that his sister had pointed out that Corona viruses have been around for decades. Maybe even centuries. The antibodies have been known to scientists for a long time too. It was this fact that enabled the vaccines to be rolled out quickly. It was not a case of trying to discover a new vaccine for a new virus but rather tweaking it to cope with the current virus. Much of the development had already been done. Thus speeding up the process.

[Smithy]

As a friend said, if there was no internet there would be no fear of the vaccine, adding that everyone just had the TB jab when they were young - they did not debate the arse off the pro's and con's.

Maybe your friend should read more.!!!

How about .....

The Cutter Incident, Polio Vaccine in the mid 50's

The Diphtheria, Tetanus, and Pertussis (DTP) Vaccine Controversy in the 70's

The Measles, Mumps, and Rubella (MMR) Vaccine Controversy in the 90's

Most Vaccines take 10 -15 years to develope and have to go through vast testing schedules before they are released for public use , No one knows whats going to happen in years to come as the latest Covid Vaccines have been rolled out so fast , As I've said before  , I think I will take the 'wait and see ' apporach !!! . No conspiracy theories here's just facts 

Comparing vaccines of many years ago, with the advancement of technology, is laughable. Especially as many of the original findings have now been found to be false.

I think you better read what Coco said and my reply again

Coco said " if there was no internet there would be no fear of the vaccine' and 'they did not debate the arse off the pro's and con's.:....well there has always been vaccine contaversies for the day they were invented .But your right is saying some ending up being false . But for Coco's friend (  ) to  say the everyone in the past just took the vaccines on offer with no question asked is also false .

Also, I was in a local expat hangout the other day and the idea of many years of development for vaccines came up. There was an Italian guy there whose sister works for GSK in Verona. She has been involved in the developments and testing of vaccines for Covid19. Basically, from what I could understand he said that his sister had pointed out that Corona viruses have been around for decades. Maybe even centuries. The antibodies have been known to scientists for a long time too. It was this fact that enabled the vaccines to be rolled out quickly. It was not a case of trying to discover a new vaccine for a new virus but rather tweaking it to cope with the current virus. Much of the development had already been done. Thus speeding up the process.

Yes most of what you have posted above is mainly true BUT I still think its my choice on whether I have the vaccine or not and have every right to voice my concerens.

[CO-CO]

Yes most of what you have posted above is mainly true BUT I still think its my choice on whether I have the vaccine or not and have every right to voice my concerens.

I absolutely agree with the right of an individual not to have the vaccine. As for your concerns, they do not interest me - and I don't see the point in voicing a slanted opinion (using unrelated negative information in an attempt to discredit vaccine producers).

At least you have a fan boy in Dave!   

[CO-CO]

The only vaccine for Covid 19 I would use  would be the Russian Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine. It is safe, cheap and really works without all the nasty side effects of the big Pharma money grab vaccines.
Regards

Do you have the evidence to support that statement?

Yes I do .  Please PM me if you want to go further with this. Regards

Why not share it on the forum. We can all see it then.

You claim that other vaccines have nasty side effects. Are you speaking about the 0.00125% chance of a blood clot? Do you know the chances of blood clots if you don;t have a vaccine? If you don't, your comments mean nothing. One needs to compare to make a point.

Again, I agree 100%.

If the information is credible then it should be made available on the forum.


I think posters lose credibility if they open their mouth without being able to back it up with supporting validation.

[Smithy]

Yes most of what you have posted above is mainly true BUT I still think its my choice on whether I have the vaccine or not and have every right to voice my concerens.

I absolutely agree with the right of an individual not to have the vaccine. As for your concerns, they do not interest me - and I don't see the point in voicing a slanted opinion (using unrelated negative information in an attempt to discredit vaccine producers).

At least you have a fan boy in Dave!   

Good luck with your Moderna vaccine option if it becomes avalible here

https://www.wsj.com/articles/inside-moderna-the-covid-vaccine-front-runner-with-no-track-record-and-an-unsparing-ceo-11593615205

[CO-CO]

Yes most of what you have posted above is mainly true BUT I still think its my choice on whether I have the vaccine or not and have every right to voice my concerens.

Presumably, if you get bitten by a soi dog, you would not have a rabies jab.

[CO-CO]

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Maybe your friend should read more.!!!

My friend decided to read more.....now he feels reassured.


https://www.facebook.com/95006403011/posts/10160935246948012/?substory_index=0

[Smithy]

Yes most of what you have posted above is mainly true BUT I still think its my choice on whether I have the vaccine or not and have every right to voice my concerens.

Presumably, if you get bitten by a soi dog, you would not have a rabies jab.

About 12 years ago I did get bitten by a dog and the wife insisted I went to hospital and have the Rabies jabs. I had the 1st one and I felt ill, I had the 2nd a few days later and I ended up in bed for 8 days and I thought I going to die . I never went back for the rest of the course . I must have had an allergic reaction to it .
After 8 days I started to feel a bit better and got out of bed. I had lost about 4 kilos as I hadn't eaten and had just drunk water . The good thing was I was smoking about 60 a day and after 8 days without a cigarette I decided to stop and have never smoked since . Maybe this is one of the reason for my aversion of vaccines

[Tassie]

Some 10 years ago Russia was working on a vaccine for the common cold.  They were able to fast track the development of Sputnik because of some similarities between the common cold and Covid.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1123927/sputnik-v-exports-from-russia-by-country/

https://www.rferl.org/a/sputnik-v-vaccine/31133608.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55900622

Regards

[Gerry]

Some 10 years ago Russia was working on a vaccine for the common cold.  They were able to fast track the development of Sputnik because of some similarities between the common cold and Covid

As were many other countries and pharmaceutical companies.

I stated this in my comment above.

[Nobby]

Yes most of what you have posted above is mainly true BUT I still think its my choice on whether I have the vaccine or not and have every right to voice my concerens.

Presumably, if you get bitten by a soi dog, you would not have a rabies jab.

About 12 years ago I did get bitten by a dog and the wife insisted I went to hospital and have the Rabies jabs. I had the 1st one and I felt ill, I had the 2nd a few days later and I ended up in bed for 8 days and I thought I going to die . I never went back for the rest of the course . I must have had an allergic reaction to it .
After 8 days I started to feel a bit better and got out of bed. I had lost about 4 kilos as I hadn't eaten and had just drunk water . The good thing was I was smoking about 60 a day and after 8 days without a cigarette I decided to stop and have never smoked since . Maybe this is one of the reason for my aversion of vaccines

How was the dog?

[Smithy]

Yes most of what you have posted above is mainly true BUT I still think its my choice on whether I have the vaccine or not and have every right to voice my concerens.

Presumably, if you get bitten by a soi dog, you would not have a rabies jab.

About 12 years ago I did get bitten by a dog and the wife insisted I went to hospital and have the Rabies jabs. I had the 1st one and I felt ill, I had the 2nd a few days later and I ended up in bed for 8 days and I thought I going to die . I never went back for the rest of the course . I must have had an allergic reaction to it .
After 8 days I started to feel a bit better and got out of bed. I had lost about 4 kilos as I hadn't eaten and had just drunk water . The good thing was I was smoking about 60 a day and after 8 days without a cigarette I decided to stop and have never smoked since . Maybe this is one of the reason for my aversion of vaccines

How was the dog?

Fine , may have been the same one that made you crash when you didn't have your helmet on 

[CO-CO]

Some 10 years ago Russia was working on a vaccine for the common cold.  They were able to fast track the development of Sputnik because of some similarities between the common cold and Covid.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1123927/sputnik-v-exports-from-russia-by-country/

https://www.rferl.org/a/sputnik-v-vaccine/31133608.html

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55900622

Regards

Thanks for posting that.


All countries were able to do the same (because Corona virus is not new) and tat is why the UK got AZ to market so quickly.

[CO-CO]

How was the dog?

Fine , may have been the same one that made you crash when you didn't have your helmet on 

Both comments made me LOL... ............You two should get a room........