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Offline Kawa

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Covid testing & fit to fly certificate (inEnglish)
« on: January 18, 2021, 04:54:58 PM »
Afternoon All,
Does anybody know where its possible to get a covid test and fit to fly certificate (English language)in or around Buriram ?
I do know it?s possible in Korat,Bkk and Pattaya,but they come with added hazards.

Cheers in advance,

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Re: Covid testing & fit to fly certificate (inEnglish)
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2021, 06:01:16 PM »
Afternoon All,
Does anybody know where its possible to get a covid test and fit to fly certificate (English language)in or around Buriram ?
I do know it?s possible in Korat,Bkk and Pattaya,but they come with added hazards.

Cheers in advance,

Covid tests wee being done at the football stadium. This was for people travelling back to Buriram after having been in a red zone. Might be worth asking there.

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Re: Covid testing & fit to fly certificate (inEnglish)
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2021, 01:31:27 AM »
Thanks Gerry
in the meantime attached is an official list that i found.

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Re: Covid testing & fit to fly certificate (inEnglish)
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2021, 02:25:50 AM »
and more information about covid testing .

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Re: Covid testing & fit to fly certificate (inEnglish)
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2021, 03:21:35 PM »
and more information about covid testing .

A Thai reading member of my family suggests that could be an old announcement. It says that the service at Buriram Castle will cease from 1st July 2020.

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Re: Covid testing & fit to fly certificate (inEnglish)
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2021, 10:55:30 AM »
The only jab for immunity against Covid 19, that is actually working without causing death or serious side effects is the Russian Sputnik V. It is the world's first registered vaccine based on a well-studied human adenoviral vector-based platform. If I am forced to get a jab I will travel to Vladivostok and get a jab there.
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Re: Covid testing & fit to fly certificate (inEnglish)
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2021, 12:51:04 PM »
The only jab for immunity against Covid 19, that is actually working without causing death or serious side effects is the Russian Sputnik V. It is the world's first registered vaccine based on a well-studied human adenoviral vector-based platform. If I am forced to get a jab I will travel to Vladivostok and get a jab there.
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A guy takes Russian vaccine against COVID-19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN2eQ_CKZT8

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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2021, 02:37:35 PM »
Loved the video. I thought people become supermen after consuming large quantities of vodka. On a more sombre tone, more than 12,400 people in Israel have tested positive for coronavirus after being vaccinated with the Pfizer/BioNTech jab, including 69 who had received their second dose. Don?t go near this jab. Those tested did not have the corona virus before taking this jab. A number of people have died as a result of taking Pfizer/BioNTech .
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Re: Covid testing & fit to fly certificate (inEnglish)
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2021, 03:20:05 PM »
Loved the video. I thought people become supermen after consuming large quantities of vodka. On a more sombre tone, more than 12,400 people in Israel have tested positive for coronavirus after being vaccinated with the Pfizer/BioNTech jab, including 69 who had received their second dose. Don't go near this jab. Those tested did not have the corona virus before taking this jab. A number of people have died as a result of taking Pfizer/BioNTech .
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You are only telling half the strory.

Israel are the world leaders in vaccinating against Covid19. They have vaccinated near to 2 million people. So you say that 12400 people have contracted the virus after being vaccinated. I saw that story too. However, if you read other stories and not just the Israeli ones, you will see that 99.??% of them have only had the first dose and many caught Covid within 14 days of the vaccination. All of these factors had already been mentioned when Pfiizer rolled the vaccine out. (What was the published effectiveness? 93%) This is not a "OK I have had the jab now I can go out and not care" situation. It takes time for the vaccine to take effect.

You say some people died? The story that hit the headlines was the Norwegian one. If I remember, there were 29 deaths. Of those, all were over 80 and a good number were terminally ill with an unrelated health condition. I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?

The %%% here are to be expected and should not be considered a game changer.

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Re: Covid testing & fit to fly certificate (inEnglish)
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2021, 05:38:05 PM »
I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?


WOW!!

So in your opinion my wife's older sisters Husband, who was diagnosed with the last stage of Lung Cancer (stage 4) and his Doctors said that they should prepare for the worst should have been denied the vaccine?

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The five-year relative survival rate for stage 4 lung cancer is 4.7 percent. However, relative survival rates don't take into account recent improvements in treatment. They're based on diagnosis and treatment for at least 5 years earlier

https://www.healthline.com/health/stage-4-lung-cancer-prognosis#survival-rates

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There is no standardized life expectancy for a patient to be considered terminal, although it is generally months or less. Life expectancy for terminal patients is a rough estimate given by the physician based on previous data and does not always reflect true longevity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_illness

Ps: he is still going strong 6 years after the diagnosis!

Edit: And set a-side my personal feelings about what you wrote, Think about the out cry it would cause if Terminally ill people would be denied the vaccine, the upset would be worse then the Announcement of the Covid test requirement for getting your extension stamp :biggrin:
« Last Edit: January 21, 2021, 05:41:07 PM by iammike »

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Re: Covid testing & fit to fly certificate (inEnglish)
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2021, 07:52:11 PM »
I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?


WOW!!

So in your opinion my wife's older sisters Husband, who was diagnosed with the last stage of Lung Cancer (stage 4) and his Doctors said that they should prepare for the worst should have been denied the vaccine?

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The five-year relative survival rate for stage 4 lung cancer is 4.7 percent. However, relative survival rates don't take into account recent improvements in treatment. They're based on diagnosis and treatment for at least 5 years earlier

https://www.healthline.com/health/stage-4-lung-cancer-prognosis#survival-rates

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There is no standardized life expectancy for a patient to be considered terminal, although it is generally months or less. Life expectancy for terminal patients is a rough estimate given by the physician based on previous data and does not always reflect true longevity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_illness

Ps: he is still going strong 6 years after the diagnosis!

Edit: And set a-side my personal feelings about what you wrote, Think about the out cry it would cause if Terminally ill people would be denied the vaccine, the upset would be worse then the Announcement of the Covid test requirement for getting your extension stamp :biggrin:

Terminally ill generally means those with 6 months or less to live.

I my experience this news is only given to those patients and their families when extensive tests and diagnosis has been done.

With that in mind, your family members are not terminally ill.

If someone who is clearly within 6 months of death receives a vaccine, I can't help thinking it could have gone to someone else.

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Re: Covid testing & fit to fly certificate (inEnglish)
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2021, 08:02:54 PM »
I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?


WOW!!

So in your opinion my wife's older sisters Husband, who was diagnosed with the last stage of Lung Cancer (stage 4) and his Doctors said that they should prepare for the worst should have been denied the vaccine?

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The five-year relative survival rate for stage 4 lung cancer is 4.7 percent. However, relative survival rates don't take into account recent improvements in treatment. They're based on diagnosis and treatment for at least 5 years earlier

https://www.healthline.com/health/stage-4-lung-cancer-prognosis#survival-rates

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There is no standardized life expectancy for a patient to be considered terminal, although it is generally months or less. Life expectancy for terminal patients is a rough estimate given by the physician based on previous data and does not always reflect true longevity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_illness

Ps: he is still going strong 6 years after the diagnosis!

Edit: And set a-side my personal feelings about what you wrote, Think about the out cry it would cause if Terminally ill people would be denied the vaccine, the upset would be worse then the Announcement of the Covid test requirement for getting your extension stamp :biggrin:

Terminally ill generally means those with 6 months or less to live.

I my experience this news is only given to those patients and their families when extensive tests and diagnosis has been done.

With that in mind, your family members are not terminally ill.

If someone who is clearly within 6 months of death receives a vaccine, I can't help thinking it could have gone to someone else.

Best of luck to you with your ideas

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Re: Covid testing & fit to fly certificate (inEnglish)
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2021, 10:36:27 PM »
I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?


WOW!!

So in your opinion my wife's older sisters Husband, who was diagnosed with the last stage of Lung Cancer (stage 4) and his Doctors said that they should prepare for the worst should have been denied the vaccine?

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The five-year relative survival rate for stage 4 lung cancer is 4.7 percent. However, relative survival rates don't take into account recent improvements in treatment. They're based on diagnosis and treatment for at least 5 years earlier

https://www.healthline.com/health/stage-4-lung-cancer-prognosis#survival-rates

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There is no standardized life expectancy for a patient to be considered terminal, although it is generally months or less. Life expectancy for terminal patients is a rough estimate given by the physician based on previous data and does not always reflect true longevity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_illness

Ps: he is still going strong 6 years after the diagnosis!

Edit: And set a-side my personal feelings about what you wrote, Think about the out cry it would cause if Terminally ill people would be denied the vaccine, the upset would be worse then the Announcement of the Covid test requirement for getting your extension stamp :biggrin:

Terminally ill generally means those with 6 months or less to live.

I my experience this news is only given to those patients and their families when extensive tests and diagnosis has been done.

With that in mind, your family members are not terminally ill.

If someone who is clearly within 6 months of death receives a vaccine, I can't help thinking it could have gone to someone else.

Best of luck to you with your ideas

Thanks.

Example: you are at home or in a hospice with cancer. This is an aggressive and untreatable form of cancer. You have been given 6 months to live.

At the same time there is a vaccine shortage. In your family there are you, wife  2 children and a grand child. All except for you are in good health. Sadly, your family have been told only 4 of you can get a vaccine. Who misses out?

I know what I would do and having put the scenario to a few others whilst out this evening, they all said the same

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Re: Covid testing & fit to fly certificate (inEnglish)
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2021, 09:53:53 AM »
I have to ask, why are terminally ill people being vaccinated?


WOW!!

So in your opinion my wife's older sisters Husband, who was diagnosed with the last stage of Lung Cancer (stage 4) and his Doctors said that they should prepare for the worst should have been denied the vaccine?

Quote
The five-year relative survival rate for stage 4 lung cancer is 4.7 percent. However, relative survival rates don't take into account recent improvements in treatment. They're based on diagnosis and treatment for at least 5 years earlier

https://www.healthline.com/health/stage-4-lung-cancer-prognosis#survival-rates

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There is no standardized life expectancy for a patient to be considered terminal, although it is generally months or less. Life expectancy for terminal patients is a rough estimate given by the physician based on previous data and does not always reflect true longevity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminal_illness

Ps: he is still going strong 6 years after the diagnosis!

Edit: And set a-side my personal feelings about what you wrote, Think about the out cry it would cause if Terminally ill people would be denied the vaccine, the upset would be worse then the Announcement of the Covid test requirement for getting your extension stamp :biggrin:

Terminally ill generally means those with 6 months or less to live.

I my experience this news is only given to those patients and their families when extensive tests and diagnosis has been done.

With that in mind, your family members are not terminally ill.

If someone who is clearly within 6 months of death receives a vaccine, I can't help thinking it could have gone to someone else.

Best of luck to you with your ideas

Thanks.

Example: you are at home or in a hospice with cancer. This is an aggressive and untreatable form of cancer. You have been given 6 months to live.

At the same time there is a vaccine shortage. In your family there are you, wife  2 children and a grand child. All except for you are in good health. Sadly, your family have been told only 4 of you can get a vaccine. Who misses out?

I know what I would do and having put the scenario to a few others whilst out this evening, they all said the same

Oke whatIf that person, with that

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Example: you are at home or in a hospice with cancer. This is an aggressive and untreatable form of cancer. You have been given 6 months to live.

Lives longer then the 6 months, and after the 6 months or let's say after 1 year gets covid and he dies from it because he didn't get the vaccine because it was denied to him/her?

Good choice you made then hu!!!

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Re: Covid testing & fit to fly certificate (inEnglish)
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2021, 11:45:36 AM »
As expected, iammike, you avoided answering question.

Lots of heresay in your reply.

It's quite obvious to most people who would miss out.

Your heresay could have the sick guy getting the vaccine, dying in 2 months and the grandkid dying of Covid19. I asked you to think about decision making at the time.

So you are really saying that you would choose a terminally I'll self over your healthy grandchild, wife or children?
« Last Edit: January 22, 2021, 11:54:40 AM by Gerry »

 

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